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Yes, science does use the present as the key to the past, such as in geology. If you look at tree rings, they count them as if they all grew in this nature. Corals, etc. Sun cycles? Continental drift? These all use the present nature and extrapolate backwards. Sorry if this was news to you.No they aren't. Nobody is making such a claim, let alone one that is backed with any actual science. Your comments on a forum are a total irrelevance. Show us where this challenge is in the scientific literature, otherwise it is only a figment of your imagination.
Jesus disagrees.The bible is primitive, bronze age scribblings. Nothing to do with science.
Yes, science does use the present as the key to the past, such as in geology. If you look at tree rings, they count them as if they all grew in this nature. Corals, etc. Sun cycles? Continental drift? These all use the present nature and extrapolate backwards. Sorry if this was news to you.
The issue is that science models as if space and time were the same in all the universe. Proof? Since it is only a matter of belief, don't preach to us.Obfuscate or what? Nobody is claiming that time runs differently elsewhere. Except you. And you don't count.
So link to the scientific evidence for this woo.
5/ The tests were indeed done by credible forensic labs.
So just link me to the publications.
Here a precis of tixtla
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/english_pdf/Tixtla2.pdf
But you will need to go back to ricardo castarnons book on tixtla for the forensic reports and accreditations. Some of the reports are english. But these happended in the the spanish speaking world.
Much of the literature is spanish - as indeed this conference.
There are books in english about buenos airies, and you may find you tube videos on it. There is a book in english about lanciano.
As you see there is evidence.
A thank you would be nice.No, I'm talking about real scientific, peer reviewed descriptions, including the chain of evidence back to the original magic trick. They all look like easy to pull off hoaxes to me.
I repeat. There is far more forensic theistic evidence than there is for abiogenesis
The issue is that science models as if space and time were the same in all the universe. Proof? Since it is only a matter of belief, don't preach to us.
The projection is strong in this one.Which demonstrates only that you have not researched it.
Which proves my point about atheist faith
And consequent refusal to study evidence or science.
You are blinded by your own dogma.
I prefer evidence, particularly that from credible forensic labs whose day job is "Beyond reasonable doubt" for criminal investigation.
The phenomena? You mean mass delusion?I doubt you can even name the phenomena relevant to my post, let alone the nature of evidence. So you are dismissing it only because it violates your apriori beliefs.
I repeat. There is far more forensic theistic evidence than there is for abiogenesis, either evidence or process of life from random chemistry.
Or not.We don't observe anythig in our telescopes that would require suggesting that "space and time" are different elsewhere in the universe.
Or not.
To expect religious believers/fundamentalists of so called science to look at things here in our space and time and not assume that this is how the whole universe, golly gee, just must be also, is foolish.There is no scientific reason, nor even a viable hypothesis, for how or why it would. And, to the best of my knowledge, nobody with any scientific credentials is proposing such a thing. It is nonsense. A band-aid for the gaping wounds that science has left in your belief system, and that of all fundies and creationists.
The only "known" truth about gods, is that humans tend to invent them.To expect religious believers/fundamentalists of so called science to look at things here in our space and time and not assume that this is how the whole universe, golly gee, just must be also, is foolish.
I look not at how high and lofty and smug they might be in their beliefs, but what basis they sit upon, and how they align with the known truth of God.
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