The Ten Commandments

[alli_boo]

What are you views on the ten commandments. Do you feel that christians should still fulfull these laws? Or do you think we should only abide by certain ones? Are we sinners if we dont still abide by them?

 

[Ananel]

What are you views on the ten commandments. Do you feel that christians should still fulfull these laws? Or do you think we should only abide by certain ones? Are we sinners if we dont still abide by them?

1) There's something special about God personally chiselling the words on stone and having them put into the Ark.

2) They fit perfectly within the framework of the Law of Love (Mark 12).

So, while the ceremonial law is dead and buried (Colossians 2:14 and Acts 15), I still think we need to look over it with care and respect, seeing what is part of the Law of Love. Further, I see no reason to dump the ten commandments when they fit into the Law of Love so perfectly.

 

[alli_boo]

1) There's something special about God personally chiselling the words on stone and having them put into the Ark.

2) They fit perfectly within the framework of the Law of Love (Mark 12).

So, while the ceremonial law is dead and buried (Colossians 2:14 and Acts 15), I still think we need to look over it with care and respect, seeing what is part of the Law of Love. Further, I see no reason to dump the ten commandments when they fit into the Law of Love so perfectly.

i completely agree!

 

[Clem is Me]

What are you views on the ten commandments. Do you feel that christians should still fulfull these laws? Or do you think we should only abide by certain ones? Are we sinners if we dont still abide by them?

Some are self evident, like murder and theft. Some are mind control, like covetousness. The preamble or first commmandment, whichever you prefer, is simply establishing the the parameters for the the rest. I believe Christians should be more interersted in Jesus' two commandments, and as a secularist I am really only interested in the second of those.

 

[Beoga]

i think a christian should follow all of them, all of them are for our protection, God gave them to us because He loves us.
great book to read on this is called Tender Commandments-by Ron Mehl

 

[aimejl]

i think a christian should follow all of them, all of them are for our protection, God gave them to us because He loves us.
great book to read on this is called Tender Commandments-by Ron Mehl

I totally agree!

 

[jesusfreak3786]

Yes I think we should try our hardest to abide by these laws.

 

[Ananel]

What is fascinating is that very disparate viewpoints on matters of law and its importance can agree on this point.

 

[Johnnz]

The Ten commandments were part of a whole set of laws that formed a specific relationship (a covenant) between God and Israel. Within that body of law there are the ten commandements. These reflect basic moral principles, most of which existed long before the stone tablets eg Cain's murder of Abel. They form a whole.

Jesus gave us a new covenant which superceded the old one, with a new emphasis on inner attitudes rather than outward conformity. This covenenat is with people from all nations, and has far greater implications, including the reality of a new life after death.

John
NZ

 

[Te_Adoro_68]

Firstly, it doesn't matter what your opinion on which commandments to follow is, because we are all born sinners. That said, I think that all the commandments should still be followed.

In any event, the purpose of law is not that we follow it perfectly, and thus become perfect people. God set laws in place to show us our shortcomings and our need to be saved.

 

[SarcasmDispenser]

I believe you should follow the Ten Commandments, do you have problems with them as a Christian? They are there to protect us, God loves us and wants to help us live our daily lives. By giving guidelines.

 

[Randall McNally]

i think a christian should follow all of them, all of them are for our protection, God gave them to us because He loves us.

Except God didn't give them to "us." He gave them to Moses to give to the Israelites. Twice, in fact.

 

[Ave Maria]

My view is that they don't belong in government buildings.

 

[SarcasmDispenser]

My view is that they don't belong in government buildings.

For every person that thinks this, theres one that thinks otherwise and one that couldn't care less.

 

[Buzz Dixon]

Some are self evident, like murder and theft. Some are mind control, like covetousness.

You say "mind control" as if it were a bad thing. Covetousness is the sin that hurts us, not others. Wanting to improve one's lot in life is not covetousness. Seeing something a neighbor has and wanting something like it is not covetousness, wanting that thing is covetousness. Hence, covetousness leads us to commit other sins.

 

[Clem is Me]

You say "mind control" as if it were a bad thing. Covetousness is the sin that hurts us, not others. Wanting to improve one's lot in life is not covetousness. Seeing something a neighbor has and wanting something like it is not covetousness, wanting that thing is covetousness. Hence, covetousness leads us to commit other sins.

May lead to it. Like lust for a woman may lead to sex with that woman. There is nothing certain about it. And I don't buy into "sin".

 

[Buzz Dixon]

The Ten Commandments are enumerate twice in the Old Testament, once in Exodus, once in Dueteronomy. The wording is slightly different, but they're basically the same text. Jews, Catholics, and Protestants number them differently, but they always include the following:

You shall have no other gods before me.

You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you.

You shall not kill.

You shall not commit adultery.

You shall not steal.

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ass, or anything that is your neighbor's.

The Ten Commandments are to be followed by all believers of God (the Old Testament clearly states that while the Jews are the chosen people, they are not the only people following God). Jewish teachers have concluded there are a basic core of seven laws they refer to as the noahide laws that all people, believers or not, are to follow:

1. Not to deny God.

2. Not to blaspheme God.

3. Not to murder.

4. Not to engage in incestuous, adulterous, bestial or homosexual relationships.

5. Not to steal.

6. Not to eat a limb torn from a living animal.

7. To set up courts to ensure obedience to the other six laws.

(Quotes from various web sources)

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

Jesus gave us two commandments: Love God and Love Neighbor. This is the whole of Christian morality. The Ten Commandments are relevant to Christians because (and only because) they are expressions of these two commandments. They are useful for instruction, but there is danger that focusing on them too much will give people the impression that morality is negative: don't do these things and you are doing fine. Jesus makes it quite clear that this is wrong in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7).

 

[Buzz Dixon]

Here's a link that has a wonderful examination of what the Ten Commandments is all about (you may have to scroll down the side to get to it, but what the hey, you're all computer literate):


http://www.gospelcom.net/stott/topic/index.html

 

[mpshiel]

First, it was God who carved them into the set that Moses destroyed, it was moses who carved them into the set that went into the ark (apparently temper tantrums have penalties)

I do agree that Christians should keep them in the spirit as illustrated by Jesus In Matt 5-7 and in the summing up mentioned early. I find it interesting to note that in this highly Christianized western society, we talk about 2-3 seriously at best. Indeed, certain aspects of Western Society can only succeed if we advocate ignoring several of them.

Where would corporations be without not only paying no tax but getting kickbacks and grants from governments (now when I don't pay tax it's call theft, but when McDonalds does it its called a "growth economy"?)
Though shall not covet? - how exactly does this line up with consumerism and the American Dream (remember how after 9/11 we were encouraged to go buy stuff so that "they" wouldn't defeat us - because if we ever stopped spending "disposable income" aka stuff we really don't HAVE to have - the economy would nose dive)
Though shall not have any other Gods before me? This to a country that worships everything from cars, to sports teams to movie and singer icons?