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The Sun Revolves Around The Earth: Scripture Cannot Lie

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The Word of God declares that the earth is the center of the creation, and the heavens and earth are of a piece, and the heavens were stretched out from the earth on day 2 of creation week, between the divided in two waters of creation.
The early Church "Fathers" completely agree with the Word of God on the geocentric creation.

The Fathers on the Geocentric Cosmos
Scripture Catholic - GEOCENTRISM

Before there was a Church, Enoch the prophet, the seventh from Adam, wrote the book of cosmology revealing the paths of the sun, moon, and stars and how they bring in God's years from the beginning unto eternity in perfect justice, never changing and never deviating.


 

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The OP does not quote scripture so does not work with the title of the thread.

And because of the "kind of thread this is" - I know this will come in handy -


What is more - Einstein confirms that motion can accurately be described in terms of the frame of reference of the viewer as long as acceleration is taken into account. So you can say "the sun rises in the east and sets in the west" in your frame of reference even though what is actually happening is the earth is rotating.
 
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Man is the "crown" of creation, created last of all things and summarizing the spiritual (heavenlies) and physical (earth) creation to act as priest. As earth is his habitation, willed by God, and more importantly the location of the incarnation of the Logos (for God so loved the cosmos that He gave His only begotten Son ...) then in this sense the earth is a center regardless of its physical location.

Christ is risen !
 
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Enoch spoke these words in a symbolic nature that parallels with the human mind/spirit, the first that was created in the first chapter of Genesis.

This is continually unfolding to me as I see this imagery coming to greater light. The first three commandments pertain to the head of the man , (parallel with earth) who became flesh on day-6. If you will, I have noticed that the first three chapters of Genesis are a parallel to the first three commandments such as the first chapter is the creation of Spirit, and two is the creation of flesh, and the third the creation of the Holy Spirit that comes as the Fruit of the first two.

There may even be a parallel of all ten commandments with the first 10 chapters of Genesis, I haven't yet examined the last seven after the first three but I definitely see a parallel in the first three.

The Creation story is also seen in the Image of the Cross with the ten commandments written in the Cross as it is written in us (man). That man who was created on day-6 also became the Lord of the Sabbath by covenant but the world insists that it's only pointing to Jesus Christ who came to earth thousands of years afterwards to re-establish exactly what I'm describing and also to wash away our sins if we believe.

This is just a spec of the details so you will have to do some homework on this if you care. I can't force people to believe but I can post facts for them to consider. Thanks to all
 
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I remember looking into literal Geocentrism.
Unconvinced on the literal interpretation of it.
It really does not matter if you are not convinced by sources outside Scripture, as to this thread, but the Scriptures, themselves, do not lie, and the sun revolves and rotates and follows its own ordained paths in the heavens circling the earth, coming out of 6 different gates/portals ordained by God's electromagnetic forces, for the months and the seasons [that fact, can be scientifically observed].
The portal for the sun's coming out at the beginning of the year is the 4th, and when it enters that portal in its rising, the days are equal -the spring equinox in as it is observed from Jerusalem, which point of the earth is the "center of the earth"=the navel of its "birth"!- as the Word of God states; and the moon follows the same paths as the sun, for they have "an oath" between them, which sets them on the same course in the heavens, circling the earth, only the moon falls behind the sun, as Enoch wrote of, a certain number of days in a certain number of years, before coming back to the same starting point again....

The earth does not spin, revolve, rotate or tilt, but is fixed in its ordained place in the center of the heavens which were outstretched from it, on day 2 of creation week, between the divided in two waters of creation.
 
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When Joshua commanded the sun and moon to stand still, they stood still and the sun then, did not set for two days -about exactly two days not setting.

The earth was not moving from the beginning, and only the sun, moon, and stars move in the circle of the earth =the heavens.

The sun went backwards "ten degrees". The earth did not move.
 
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The OP does not quote scripture so does not work with the title of the thread.

The Scriptures do not lie!
You can try to prove they lie as to the geocentric creation, and have discussion on it -or ignore the Scriptures, but not ignore them for this thread, please.
 
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He is risen indeed!
But the Scriptures state that Adam was even placed in God's Holy Mount Eden above, in the third heaven, to tend and "guard/Shamar" Paradise, from which he was cast down to the earth when he became defiled and an unfit temple for the Glory and all the stones/eben for building/banah the temple not made with hands -the "ben Adam" to come forth from his loins, died in the loins of father Adam, son of God in his creation but cut off and dead in spirit, fallen, ruined vessel not fit to build up the "Temple not made with hands for the "Unseen Glory" to dwell in.

The Redeemer/Kinsman is come, and He has cleansed whosoever will hear and receive the Gospel and act upon it, and by that, become adopted sons of the Firstborn Son of God who is to build the temple not made with hands by His adopted sons/ben being the stones/eben for building/banah that temple for the Glory
 
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The Old Testament is one of those things where you can be assured that events are based in truth, but due to a lower level of literacy and basic understanding of science some events might be slightly misportrayed or misunderstood by those who were writing them. Many Christians do not take Genesis literally for instance, the events surely happened but we are not united on interpretation of these events.
 
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Another clue....
@ the underlined: the 'ten degrees' is a metaphor for the ten commandments. It's an 'Image' that YHWH Created FIRST for the man, and of course the earth didn't move but the mind of man flips inverted or is upright as the Cross.
 
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What exactly defines the central point of infinity?
Good question!

IMHO, of the imagery that I see in parallel with the Cross as the Image, the two beams of the Cross intersect at the 4th commandment, and this is the center of mental/spiritual gravity, possibly the meaning of geocentric. The All Seeing Eye resides in this intersection as it are the Cross-roads of the Four Corners. The single Eye sees in all directions, and this is for both the natural and the supernatural realm of man's mind; the vertical beam represents the Spiritual realm and the ten commandments/Law, while the horizontal beam represents the carnal nature of man and the natural/physical realm. The Center is infinity as it may see into the past and into the future of both realms. Thanks
 
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Why not?
 
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The infinite also stretches into the dimension of the infinitesimal for sure.
 
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This to me seems to be the proper theological response, and is the kind of response that scripture ought to lead us to.

It is our nature that we not only see the sun revolving around the earth, from our own perspective, but from that perspective, we cannot help but experience the entire universe revolving around us.

To the extent that God inhabits in our hearts, this is not just an illusion of perspective, but it is the God honest truth.
 
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