The Start of the Tribulation

Jipsah said:

Yeah, I noted that you don't like it. So, do you reckon that the prophecy about sacrifice ceasing wasn't fulfilled, or that the fulfillment somehow didn't count? Gotta be one or the other, 'cause sacrifice hasn't been happening for a couple thousand years odd. So which is it? Which does you doctrine require you to do, deny historical fact, or deny the validity of that fact? Seems like Hobson's choice to me, since either way your doctrine requires to to either try and weasel around reality or deny it altogether.

Yeah, I noted that date-setters and their ilk are pretty free with flinging out anathemas. They're not too good at getting their dates right, though.

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Yeshua said we are to Watch....There is coming a Day when the Watchman of Ephraim will say Let us go up to Tzion to Yahuwah Eloheynu

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All the Moedims will be kept during the millennium including Pesach.

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The Altar has already been built in Israel, to resume the daily sacrifice...

Not required, a stone temple...

Everything is ready to go, a pro-Temple and Torah Jewish Homeland party is rising fast in Israel's government.

For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Watch you therefore, and pray always, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Luke 21:35-36

When the gathering together to Him comes the wise will not be able to share with the foolish and it will be to late for them to understand...His people perish for lack of knowledge...

Will never hold my peace, Day or Night, until YAHUWAH makes Yerushalayim a praise in all the Earth.

Will not say, all things remain the same since the fathers fell asleep, where is this promise of His Coming...when they have not.

Watching, if you have a problem with the interpretation and find a error point it out...but first take off the preterist glasses...I was careful not to say these are YHWH's dates, but they are no doubt worthy of consideration....better to sound the alarm, than keep silent.

The following verse is not Speaking of Yeshua

And he shall strengthen a covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease Dan 9:27

Will happen, has happened as with Antiochus Epiphanies, when you see, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, Flee

We are in that week, a snare upon the whole earth.

when they say peace and safety, sudden destruction

Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that the anti-christ shall come... 1 Jo 2:18

The definite article is in the Greek text. ὅτι ὁ ἀντίχριστος

....and the people of the ruler (anti-christ) that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary... Dan 9:26

On the 9th of Av 70 AD, the 10th legion under Titus's command destroyed the Second Temple > The First Temple was destroyed on the 9th of Av 586 BC

The 10th legions soldiers were ethnic Syrian conscripts into the Roman military.

The people of the ruler that shall come <> Did destroy the City and the Temple

The Roman Empire - the 4th Beast Empire Destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple as written

There is an arch in Rome til this day that commemorates Titus' capture and destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, sculpted stone showing all the Temple instruments being carried away from Jerusalem..

Now there are two Identifiers of who the ruler to come could possibly be...of the Roman Empire the 4th beast, Syrian

From the Roman Empire and Syrian > City (Empire) and Sanctuary (Syrian) was destroyed

The USA uprooted three kings that arose from the collapse of the Roman Empire

England- Revolutionary War

France- Louisiana Purchase

Spain- Spanish American War

And the ten horns out of this kingdom (Roman Empire) are ten kings that shall arise(Ten did): and another (USA) shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. Dan 7:24

Diverse > The USA is Diverse, The Land

'he' in vs 24 is speaking of the diverse nation in the masculine, compare Dan 7:7-8, 20 > ....in this horn( nation) were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. 7:8

In the Nation that uproots Three comes the Big Mouthed Narcissist

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Syrian heritage

8,000 Beduin stake their claim as the lost tribe of Barack Obama

A sheikh in Galilee says he has evidence that he and his family are linked by blood to the new President


&#8220;We hope to God that Obama will solve the problem of Ghajar,&#8221; said Sheikh Issam al-Khalil, a leading citizen of the divided town, whose residents mostly speak Hebrew and Arabic but many of whom consider themselves as originally Syrian. Reference Times UK, Subscription

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And it just so happens that bho's birthday is on the Day retro calculated to the destruction of the second temple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_4 Destruction Second Temple - Birthday: bho-given a prize. Rev 6:2

Syrian heritage and is from the nation that uprooted three, born on the day that the second Temple was destroyed....where am i making this up?

Ludwig:
whose future? whose end-times?

The apostles, or ours?

--Inter

The Big Mouth Narcissist trying to sway the outcome of Israel's election in one week, It comes out today as always that he is Fighting Against Jerusalem and the House of Judah > and their Elohiym given right to the Land that He gave to them to build their Homes.

Obama says, No you can not build, speaking great Words against the Most High, The Elohiym of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob

All the nations that burden themselves against Jerusalem are Fighting against The Almighty and His Anointed One and will be Judged severely.

Obama is the chief ringleader of the nations coming against Judah in order to enforce the Covenant of Death

PM Unshaken by Obama's Criticisms

Sources close to Binyamin Netanyahu said Tuesday that the Prime Minister would remain solid in his policies, especially regarding Israel's determination not to return to the 1948 armistice lines, despite the comments President Barack H. Obama reputedly made. The comments, published Tuesday by The Atlantic magazine, have Obama slamming Israeli decisions to build in Judea and Samaria. &#8220;Israel doesn't know what its own best interests are,&#8221; Obama is quoted as saying by author Jeff Goldberg. &#8220;With each new settlement announcement, in Obama's view, Netanyahu is moving his country down a path toward near-total isolation,&#8221; Goldberg writes.

Sources: PM Unshaken by Obama's Criticisms - Defense/Security - News - Israel National News

Obama's True Colors

Lets not forget Obama, who on his way to transforming America, has succeeded in making the Democratic Party, a political party that no longer believes in Israel's right to self-defense, nor that Israel is still America's strongest ally in the region, nor that Jerusalem is and will remain the Capital of Israel.

Obama's True Colors - Op-Eds - Israel National News

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Currently a lot is being made on online message boards of reports coming from Chinese media outlining new orders for 2013 which apply to all branches of the People&#8217;s Liberation Army. Some Japanese media outlets have been interpreting these orders as &#8220;prepare for war&#8230;

According to the Chinese military&#8217;s news source, PLA Daily documents dated 14 January lay out the goals for this year. These goals include &#8220;making firm preparations for war&#8221; and &#8220;increase the strictness and difficulty of all troops&#8217; training to match combat conditions.&#8221;

Chinaâ&#8364;&#8482;s â&#8364;&#339;Prepare for Warâ&#8364; Orders Unsettling in[bless and do not curse]Japan | RocketNews24

Ebed said:

The Red Horse of War

Judah was prophesied to return to their homes first in the last days, the House of David, and then All the nations would come against them to Part His Land by a Vote.

That is Exactly what happened on 11/29/2012

The Vote: the Red Horse of War &#8211; Peace taken from the earth&#8230; Revelation 6:4

For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, Joel 3:1

I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of YAH Judges, and will plead with them there for My people and for My heritage Yisrael, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted My Land. 3:2

The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have you sold unto the Greeks, that you might remove them far from their border. Joel 3:6

Greeks, origin democracy, to decide by a Vote

The UN Voted to Part His Land on 11/29/2012, the siege against Jerusalem has begun

YAH Judges

Proclaim you this among the Nations; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Joel 3:9

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YHWH also shall save the dwellings of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah. Zech 12:7

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem,&#8230;.. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon Aleph &#8211; Taw whom they have pierced, Zech 12:10

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Is China preparing for war or catastrophe? Mysteriously stockpiles rice and other commodities.

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Joel 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the gentiles; prepare war =121 wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: = 1122 ` Joel Three &#8211; Nine = 140

Xi Jinping = 112

PLA - People's Liberation Army > Zh&#333;ngguó Rénmín Ji&#283;fàngj&#363;n = 212
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Rev 6:3 and when He had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast = 140 say, come and see. = 598

President China > Hu Jintao = 98

112+98 = 210

China tells army to prepare for war in 2013 - www.phayul.com

The directives have been issued just months after Xi Jinping took over as the PLA commander-in-chief from Hu Jintao.

There is a spy in the sky and He is Jewish - He will take care of Israel - the Bible says that after Israel again becomes a state that she will never be beaten again - she will stand alone and God will bring His people home and will fight Israel's battle for her - We are in those times now - Israel stands alone among all those Islamic countries who just want to wipe her off the face of the earth - it will not happen. You will see things starting to speed up shortly when Israel takes care of Iran's nukes and the end begins.

Sharon,
the texts about the restored state are about after the exile. Then there is the age of Messiah which is where we are now, and the nations are included in its "Israel." Those are two of several basic points to absorb to truly have NT eschatology in hand.

--Inter

Ludwig van Beethoven said:

And if this is the Messianic Age then where is Yeshua? Is He not to rule on earth during the Messianic Kingdom?

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Can't speak for brother IP, but many preterists/gnostics believe that as the body of Christ, the steadfast as opposed to apostate church, are in fact Christ.

With this thought in mind, it becomes easier to understand why they feel so strongly about creating a physical kingdom of God.

Read more: Looking forward to WW3: Iran, Russia and China vs. the USA | Washington Times Communities


For out of the north there comes up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast.

In those days, and in that time, saith YHVH, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek YHVH their ELOHIYM. Jer 50:3-4

For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows/missiles shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain. 50:9

her walls are thrown down: for it is the vengeance of YHWH: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done, do unto her. 50:15

For it is the day of YHWH's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Tzion. Is 34:8

The king of Babylon hath heard the report of them, and his hands waxed feeble 50:43

Prepare against her the nations with the kings of the Iranians, the captains thereof, and all the rulers thereof, and all the land of his dominion. And the land shall tremble and sorrow: for every purpose of YHWH shall be performed against Babylon, to make the land of Babylon a desolation without an inhabitant. 51:28-29

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Shalt thou trust 222 Letters as numerals 222 Alphanumeric system 222

The Great Triple Two 222 Simple English Gematria 222

Knowledge shall increase 222 The Parable of the sower 222

The secret of the alphabet 222 A thousand years as a day 222 six thousand years 222

It is hidden in the alphabet 222

The great men of the earth 222

The end from the beginning 222 - Isaiah fortysix - ten 222

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure: Isaiah 46:10

Daniel 2:22 HE revealeth the deep and secret things, HE knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with Him

In the KJV, the English word "Wisdom" occurs in 222 verses > Hebrew-English Languages 222

>>> the king of babylon 166 the whitehouse 166 the mark of his name 166 exact phrase 1x Rev 14:11

the roadmap to peace 166 The House of Judah 166

barack hussein obama 163 There were three 163 (Dan 7:8) England France Spain 163

One hundred sixty three 261 - 163 is the first number spelled out that equals 261

the united states of america 261

The Heaven departed as a Scroll 261 exact phrase 1x Rev 6:14

20601 bohemian ave (Origin place of the Atomic bomb- Address Bohemian Grove)

Hoshanah Rabbah 2009 until Pesach 2011 = 555 Days

555th vs. Gen 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is The Lamb for a burnt offering?

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom 83. Let 37 him that hath 37 understanding count 73 the number 73 of the beast 47, for it is the number 73 of a man, and his number 73 is Six hundred threescore and six.= 1451

The 1451st vs. Genesis 47:30 But I will lie with my fathers, and thou shalt carry me out of Egypt, and bury me in their buryingplace. And he said, I will do as thou hast said. = 1318

W 23
I 9
S 19
D 4
O 15
M 13 = 83 2+3+9+1+9+4+1+5+1+3 = 38

The Standard and Ordinal values for wisdom/Hokmah in Hebrew gematria are 73 and 37

Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew = 2701 73x37 B'reshyt bara Elohiym ET haShamayim w-et haEretz

Two Verses = 1318 in Genesis - Standard English in the KJV> The 1290th verse Gen 42:37 and the 1451st verse....when you see, 1290 days

Gen 42:37 And Reuben spake unto his father, saying, Slay my two sons, if I bring him not to thee: deliver him into my hand, and I will bring him to thee again. 1318

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Yeshua &#8211; Jesus = 153

Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.
Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an Hundred and Fifty and Three and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.

The Kingdom of GOD 153 The House of Jacob 153 The Land of Goshen 153 Hebrew Aramaic Greek 153 "The Number of GOD" 153

The Children of GOD 153 "The Water of Life" 153 &#8220;The Good Ground&#8221; 153 "The Paradise of GOD" 153 "The Oracles of GOD" 153


"HE shall send them" 153 "Secret Wisdom" 153 "The Holy Word" 153 "Sealed Treasure" 153

"Rose of Sharon" 153 "The Whirlwind" 153 "Bow and Arrows" 153 Elijah Generation 153

"House of Israel" 153 "Water the sheep" 153 "The Revealed SON" 153 "Latter Glory" 153

&#8220;Creation Language&#8221; 153 &#8220;Language of Israel &#8221; 153 Original Language 153 The Last Signs 153 Plain English code 153

Wisdom-Proof 153 The Faith is a Verb 153 A Divine Sequence 153 The Golden Ratio 153 God&#8217;s Basic Gematria 153

Logos archives 153 Find the Truth 153 The Truth Gate 153 God&#8217;s Precision 153 Wisdom Archived 153

Encrypted manna 153 Encrypted K.J.V. 153 Signs of Israel 153 Valley of bones 153 Encoded of The Lord 153

A Sealed Puzzle 153 Teaching Mine Elect 153 The LORD&#8217;s Earth 153

The Deeper Evidence 153 The Sum Evidence 153 The Sabbath Evidence 153 Appointed Sabbath 153

Alpha - Jesus - Omega 153 Alpha - Messiah - Omega 153 His alphabet Door 153 Reveal Holy Bible 153 The Pyramid Inch 153

Numeric Proof 153 Numeric Secret 153 K.J.V. Prophetic 153 Messiah's Word 153 English Words 153

The Messianic Lamb 153 &#8220; I AM &#8221; The Holy place 153 Alphabet Messages 153 Teach this Word 153 The Christians 153 The Planet Earth 153

Thirty = 100 <> Hundred = 74

Sixty = 97 <> Ninety seven = 152

Hundred = 74 <> Seventy four = 170

Mark Four - Eight = 152

Mark 4:8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some Thirty, and some Sixty, and some an Hundred

Simple 74 English 74 Gematria 74 Hundred 74

To Fill 74 Greater 74 Fruit 74

JESUS 74 MESSIAH 74 / GOD SON 74

GOSPEL 74 / CROSS 74

THE KEY 74 / Parables 74

Lag BaOmer 74

THE KING 74

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Post #177 has been moved, this post is an updated version of that post...God's basic gematria 153 Follow Me 101 replacing the original 177 post.

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Posted on 11/26/12, Three days before the UN vote.

behold a white horse

The definition of Manna, what is it ?

A1-Z26 Joel Three &#8211; Nine =140

Joel 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the gentiles; prepare war =121 wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: = 1122 `

Xi Jinping = 112

PLA - People's Liberation Army > Zh&#333;ngguó Rénmín Ji&#283;fàngj&#363;n = 212
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Rev 6:3 and when He had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast = 140 say, come and see. = 598

President China > Hu Jintao = 98

112+98 = 210

China tells army to prepare for war in 2013 - www.phayul.com

The directives have been issued just months after Xi Jinping took over as the PLA commander-in-chief from Hu Jintao.

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There are the four verses that Equal 1717 in Hebrew Gematria.

Full Text Hebrew/Greek Bible Gematria Database

English Total <> Hebrew Total

1) 7373rd vs. 160th vs. 1st Samuel 8:3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment. 987 <> 1717

2) 11878th vs. 683rd vs. 2 Chronicles 32:2 And when Hezekiah saw that sennacherib was come, and that he was purposed to fight against Jerusalem 909 <> 1717

3) 13258th vs. 388th vs. Job 16:19 Also now, behold, my witness is in Heaven, and my Record is on High. 607 <> 1717

4) 14610th vs. 670th vs. Psalms 45:12 And the daughter of tyre shall be there with a gift, even the rich among the people shall intreat thy favour. 987 <> 1717

Verses 1 & 4 equal 987, Standard English method, bold highlighted.

Wisdom 73 and 37 Hebrew, 83 and 38 English, to much to highlight and more

Then i thought to calculate the 1717th verse, and it equaled 987..... YAH's Hand works to perform His Word, Baruch atah YHWH, especially in the translation that has been most instrumental in spreading the Gospel for the past 400 years, ....even with the obvious bias of the translators, It is not a perfect translation.....by man YHWH is not limited, and He only does Wondrous things and NOTHING is to hard for Him

1717th vs. 184th vs. Exodus 8:6 And Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of egypt, and the frogs came up, and covered the land of egypt. 987 <> 3795

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1717+987= 2704 >13> 4 1717+909= 2626 >16> 7 1717+607= 2324>11> 2 1717+987=2704 >13> 4

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1717-987= 730 >10> 1 1717-909= 808 >16> 7 1717-607= 1110 > 3 1717-987= 730 >10> 1

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1717th vs. 3795+987= 4782 3795-987= 2808

YHWH - Yad 10 Hey 5 Waw 6 Hey 5 = 26 &#8211; Standard Hebrew

GOD G 7 + O 15 + D 4 = 26 &#8211; Standard English

YHWH 1+5+6+5 = 17

GOD 7+1+5+4 = 17

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The First Verse that Equals 1122 in English Standard, and the First Verse that Equals 3795 Hebrew is

Genesis 31:25 Then Laban overtook Jacob. Now Jacob had pitched his tent in the mount: and Laban with his brethren pitched in the mount of Gilead. 1122 <> 3795

First Verse in the Brit Chadashah that Equals 1122

Matisyahu 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene. 1122 <>11248

1st Occurrence 1717 English Standard - 700th vs. Genesis 26:7 And the men of the place asked him of his wife; and he said, She is my sister: for he feared to say, She is my wife; lest, said he, the men of the place should kill me for Rebekah; because she was fair to look upon. 1717 <> 5629

Genesis - Leviticus > 1717 English Gematria = 1 verse

First Verse in the Brit Chadashah that Equals 1717

Matisyahu 2:22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee: 1717 <> 14833

First verse English that equals 987

196th vs. Genesis 8:12 And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more. 987 <> 2733

1717th verse is the 2nd Verse that Equals 3795 Hebrew, the 2nd Verse that equals 987 English

1717th vs. 987 <> 3795

I will go and return to My place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek My face: in their affliction they will seek Me early....After two days He will revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight. Hosea 5:15,6:2

In order to return to His place, YHWH must have left His place!

When did YHWH leave His place?

And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Phil 2:8

YHWH left His place when He took upon flesh and gave His Life as a ransom for many.

After Two Days > But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with YHWH as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2 Pet 3:8

YHWH YESHUA prophesied that He would return to His place for 2,000 years

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Matthew 24:22

After a long time the Adonay of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. Matisyahu 25:19

In the third day, Messianic Era Covenant of Peace, 1000 year Millennium

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For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. Ez 4:5

A Year for a Day.... 390 years for the house of Israel

And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. Lev 26:18

And if ye walk contrary unto Me, and will not hearken unto Me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. 26:21

Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. 26:24

Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. 26:28

390 years x 7 = 2730 years

The House of Israel, the Northern Kingdom was uprooted from the land completely by Assyria in 721 B.C. > 721 B.C. + 2009 A.D. = 2730 Years = Completed