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The Kitchen Sink
The single biggest problem with the education system.
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<blockquote data-quote="keith99" data-source="post: 74021394" data-attributes="member: 211648"><p>I think something I saw a couple of years ago sheds some light on the somewhat unique problems with American education. I looked up the best colleges in both America and the world. Of course results can vary. But one company did ranking for both and their latest rankings (the world ones were for a year earlier, which makes some sense as it is a larger task and delays are likely). </p><p></p><p>One thing stood out and stuck in my memory because it involved the only school I ever got a rejection letter from. In the U.S. rankings Cal Tech was about 8th. In the world ranking they were tied for 3rd with Stanford which was number 1 in the U.S. rankings. I strongly suspect this is because the graduation rate plays a big part in the U.S. rankings and probably not in international rankings. </p><p></p><p>Simply put Cal Tech is so difficult that many 'flunk out' which in their case often means transferring to a school many would be ecstatic to get into. When graduation/promotion rates are a part of the measure of a school, college, high school or anything else there is a very real risk that in time actual education will suffer. If it is an important part it is almost sure that eventually education will suffer significantly. Today in some situations graduation/promotion rates are the single most looked at measure. It is no surprise that actual education suffers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keith99, post: 74021394, member: 211648"] I think something I saw a couple of years ago sheds some light on the somewhat unique problems with American education. I looked up the best colleges in both America and the world. Of course results can vary. But one company did ranking for both and their latest rankings (the world ones were for a year earlier, which makes some sense as it is a larger task and delays are likely). One thing stood out and stuck in my memory because it involved the only school I ever got a rejection letter from. In the U.S. rankings Cal Tech was about 8th. In the world ranking they were tied for 3rd with Stanford which was number 1 in the U.S. rankings. I strongly suspect this is because the graduation rate plays a big part in the U.S. rankings and probably not in international rankings. Simply put Cal Tech is so difficult that many 'flunk out' which in their case often means transferring to a school many would be ecstatic to get into. When graduation/promotion rates are a part of the measure of a school, college, high school or anything else there is a very real risk that in time actual education will suffer. If it is an important part it is almost sure that eventually education will suffer significantly. Today in some situations graduation/promotion rates are the single most looked at measure. It is no surprise that actual education suffers. [/QUOTE]
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