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The Sin Nature

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I have studied the book of Romans for many years. I have been left speechless, in awe of all that God has provided for man to live a successful Christian life in Christ.

I have learned through Paul's writing in the book of Romans that God's will for us is to live a life with no know sin. I'm not speaking of sinless perfection, that is impossible. I'm speaking of living a life of victory over sin where we are not aware of any practicing sin. I believe this is the center of God's will for all His children.

Paul begins taking us through this journey in Romans 6 by identifying the culprit, the sin nature. It would take many pages just to create a proper introduction to what God has given to Paul for our edification. I will attempt to scratch the surface in this OP.

The key to understanding Romans 6 is to learn some basic rules of the Greek language Paul uses. Without this it will be impossible to know and benefit from what Paul has given us.

The word "sin" which Paul uses many times in his letters, can be used as a noun or a verb. For example, Romans 6:1,

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?"

In the Greek Text, to identify a noun the "definite article" is used which is "the." This verse actually reads,

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in "the sin," that grace may abound."

This is not sin being used as a verb, as the action of sin. The definite article declares it a noun, it is a thing not an action.

This is a direct reference to the original sin that took place in the garden of Eden. That sin is a thing, theologians refer to it as "the sin nature" passed down to man.

This is what Paul identifies as mans problem. He goes on through chapters 7-9 giving us God's plan on how we achieve victory over this dilemma.

I was hoping we could have a discussion on this subject to better understand how we achieve this victory.

I placed this in CT because I believe there will be some objection to "the sin nature," but I hope we can move past this in search of the victory.
 

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I'm speaking of living a life of victory over sin where we are not aware of any practicing sin. I believe this is the center of God's will for all His children.
1 Corinthians 15:57
But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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I was hoping we could have a discussion on this subject to better understand how we achieve this victory.....

I think it happens by this:

Jesus answered him, "Most assuredly, I tell you, unless one is born anew, he can't see the Kingdom of God." Nicodemus said to him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb, and be born?" Jesus answered, "Most assuredly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God! That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Don't marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born anew.'
John 3:3-7

But as many as received him, to them he gave the right to become God's children, to those who believe in his name: who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
John 1:12-13

It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.
John 6:63

He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.
1 John 3:7-10
 
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Dear Charles: It is wonderful the many years you have been reading the Letter to the Romans.

The Father of all fathers has a glorious purpose that encapsulates far more than accounting broken lost sinners (justification by faith) righteous.

That is the baby step of the malista, leading to change & transformation for them and the entire lost realms of sinful mankind (the polus).

Many made sinners = many made righteous.
 
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Dear Charles: It is wonderful the many years you have been reading the Letter to the Romans.

The Father of all fathers has a glorious purpose that encapsulates far more than accounting broken lost sinners (justification by faith) righteous.

That is the baby step of the malista, leading to change & transformation for them and the entire lost realms of sinful mankind (the polus).

Many made sinners = many made righteous.

I firmly disagree! What got me saved (justification by faith) is the same thing that conforms me int His image. It is what guides me through this life, and will one day deliver me into the hands of my Father.

The Holy Spirit through my faith has and will do all these things. Not because i deserve it, but because I have submitted myself to His care.
 
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Is it a sin to doubt God can and will deliver on His promises, Charlie? Is it a sin to suppose He only does things by half? Is it a sin to think He tortures people forever if they reject Him?
 
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I think it happens by this:

Jesus answered him, "Most assuredly, I tell you, unless one is born anew, he can't see the Kingdom of God." Nicodemus said to him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb, and be born?" Jesus answered, "Most assuredly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God! That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Don't marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born anew.'
John 3:3-7

But as many as received him, to them he gave the right to become God's children, to those who believe in his name: who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
John 1:12-13

It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.
John 6:63

He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.
1 John 3:7-10

I agree, if we submit ourselves to the Holy Spirit He will work to conform us into the image of Christ.

I think it would help us immensely to understand the sin nature as Paul describes it.

We who are saved have been crucified with Christ and buried with Him and have risen with Him a new creature in Christ. Paul calls this the "baptism into Christ."

This is not a water baptism as many believe, it is being immersed into Christ not water. This is when the sin nature is made dormant in us, we are no longer dominated by sin.

As long as our faith is in Christ and what He has done for us at Calvary, the sin nature will remain dormant. This allows the Holy Spirit to work in us conforming us into Christ.

If we don't understand that only the Holy Spirit can do this work, we will try to do it ourselves and this is when we get in trouble.

Our faith must remain in Christ, the only way this can take place is through a relationship. We must communicate with Him through His Word on a regular basis or the sin nature will begin to raise his ugly head.
 
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