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The Shocking Stunning Weather Event of 1816!

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I couldn't believe it! It couldn't be true! I checked other sources and to my great amazement discovered it was! There was snow on the ground, in my region of southern Ontario, Canada in the summer months of July and August in the year of 1816! I was doing some research into the history of my city from the book, "Oshawa, The Crossing Between the Waters" published by 'The Alger Press Limited' and came across this,

The summer of 1816 was a particularly trying one for the settlement as there was frost in every month of that year. The story of that tragic year is told in W. L. Smith's book "Pioneers of Old Ontario", as related by Benjamin D. Wallbrook, son of an early settler, who recorded it in these words:

'"The spring of 1816 opened with as fair prospects as have ever been seen at the same season. But the sunshine of the year's morn was followed by a long night of dark despair.

Snow commenced falling in June, and until next spring came again the ground was continuously covered by a wintry blanket. Practically nothing was gathered by way of a crop. Everything rotted in the ground. There was no flour and there were no vegetables. People lived for 12 months of the year on meat and fish---venison, porcupine and groundhog varied with the thin meat of cattle slaughtered; because there was no vegetation to sustain them.......The country was full of stories of the horrors endured during the winter of a years duration."

http://www.amazon.ca/The-Makers-Canada-Pioneers-Ontario/dp/1463732724

The winter of a year's duration? Keep in mind we're not just talking about a relatively cool summer. We've always had those periodically. We're talking about snow on the ground in summer and never melting away until the following year! Doesn't happen folks! If something similar happened today I think I can safely say the citizens would be in a state of absolute shock. To be quite honest I'm actually surprised this strange unusual occurrence isn't common knowledge or that it hasn't been referred to as an item of interest for every generation to know. The year when SUMMER never came!

As I stated prior I had to stretch my thinking to even consider that such a report was credible. Surely there had to be more on historical records about such an event, and lo and behold there is. Quite a lot actually. I went to the first place I'm sure most would go--you're right...Wikipedia. What I read there astounded me further and raised many questions I wonder if we should ask in the present day.

Here's the link which I'm sure you'll find the info interesting!

Year Without a Summer - Wikipedia

Allow me to sum up the information you'd read and if you would go back and study it out more fully later. Yes it was called around the world as the 'Year Without a Summer' 'The Summer that Never Was' or how about 'Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death'. It's suggested it was caused by a historic low in solar activity and a volcanic eruption taking place from Mount Tambora in the Dutch East Indies. It effected much of the world creating an agricultural disaster.

In North America there appeared a dry fog which reddened and dimmed the sunlight. Wind and rain wouldn't cause it to dissipate. New England and New York saw it's crops destroyed by frost in May of that year and on June 4th frost was experienced in northern Connecticut. One wrote from upstate New York In May 1816 that "all was froze" and the hills were "barren like winter". On June 6th snow fell in New York and Maine probably the same storm which effected my region of Southern Ontario. How about this...in early June 12 inches [30 cm] of snow fell in Quebec City! On July 7th temperatures had dropped so low that everything stopped growing. Frost came again on August 23, with MA, NH, VT, ME, upstate New York experiencing the same. In July and August, lake and river ice were observed as far south as Pennsylvania.

So what about the rest of the world? Below than normal temperatures destroyed crops in Britain and Ireland. People in Wales were in a desperate state for food and all throughout Europe riots broke out and it was deemed the worst famine in the 19th century. In Ireland between the years of 1816 and 1819 a typhus epidemic occurred believed to have been caused by The Year Without a Summer. 100,000 are said to have died. European death rates were twice that of average years with a fatality total of 200,000!

So any thoughts on all this? What could be said about these things and in current days what would that mean to our now highly populated regions????
 

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That is really interesting. This is interesting to.

New England's Dark Day - Wikipedia
Yes that's interesting too! So they consider forest fires caused the day to go to dark. I suppose seeing localities at that time didn't know what was happening hundreds of miles away they'd have a hard time connecting it to forest fires. I've often wondered in those times periods of the first settlers of course there was no such things like today of planes with water trying to put them out.....So how much forests would be burnt out until it'd just stop?
 
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Yes that's interesting too! So they consider forest fires caused the day to go to dark. I suppose seeing localities at that time didn't know what was happening hundreds of miles away they'd have a hard time connecting it to forest fires. I've often wondered in those times periods of the first settlers of course there was no such things like today of planes with water trying to put them out.....So how much forests would be burnt out until it'd just stop?
Yea hard to say. I find believing was caused by smoke and fire a little stretch.
 
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So any thoughts on all this? What could be said about these things and in current days what would that mean to our now highly populated regions????

When I first moved to VT/NH I was introduced to the climate/weather comment about the 2 seasons -"Winter and the 4th of July". ( Of course there are others such as 5 seasons with mud season added ) Though the specific year of the Tambora eruption was given due credit for the expression it was also believed that for an extended period of years there had been very harsh winters. I believe somewhere I read that one summer day was 74 degrees and the next day it was 21 degrees... things have certainly changed - I recall when I first moved up that we averaged about 12' of snow a winter...that changed to an average of about 9' and the last 2 years we've been 2' to 3' below average.
 
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The Little Ice Age lasted right up to 1870 and affected America and Europe...I don't know about other continents...didn't read the whole article.
Yes theres a great video on youtube about it. Very interesting stuff, the effects would be far greater if such a thing happened present day...just about 200 years later, which really is a short amount of time in the grand scheme of things
 
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Yes theres a great video on youtube about it. Very interesting stuff, the effects would be far greater if such a thing happened present day...just about 200 years later, which really is a short amount of time in the grand scheme of things

Thanks..I'll have to look it up on YouTube. Question is...what is 'normal' climate? The scientists keep telling us about man-made global warming since the nineteeth century, but I wonder (if indeed some of it is man-made) what would have happened without! After all, the Industrial Revolution started before 1870 I think. Must research it when I have more time. I'm not totally convinced that 'climate change' is man-made, at least not as much as they say. There are so many factors. But then I'm not a scientist. I also think that accoding to the Bible there will be all kinds of unusual and catastrophic happenings in the End Times...how do we know which ar e natural, which caused by man..or by anything else!
 
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The year without a summer. I remember reading about this many years ago. Southcentral Pennsylvania had heavy frosts in June, lighter frosts in July. The growing season was ruined.
 
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Yes theres a great video on youtube about it. Very interesting stuff, the effects would be far greater if such a thing happened present day...just about 200 years later, which really is a short amount of time in the grand scheme of things
And the question I have is what would happen? And what would happen to the concept of global warming? Yes I know they tend to call it climate change but the basic thought of it is global warming. Couldn't a cooling trend because of Volcanic dust make all wish they had a few degrees of extra warmth to balance out the cooling thing taking place so crops could grow?
 
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And the question I have is what would happen? And what would happen to the concept of global warming? Yes I know they tend to call it climate change but the basic thought of it is global warming. Couldn't a cooling trend because of Volcanic dust make all wish they had a few degrees of extra warmth to balance out the cooling thing taking place so crops could grow?
Im not sure anyone knows for sure. I dont dont think global warming would be a problem anymore. If anything we may want to pump some pollution into the atmosphere to try to warm the globe lol

I think many crops would be ruined and it would be ok closer to the equator but it still wouldnt be enough food for everyone and people would have to move south depending on how far the ice sheet reached. Scientists strongly believe that during the last major ice age the ice had reached as far south as new york city
Thanks..I'll have to look it up on YouTube. Question is...what is 'normal' climate? The scientists keep telling us about man-made global warming since the nineteeth century, but I wonder (if indeed some of it is man-made) what would have happened without! After all, the Industrial Revolution started before 1870 I think. Must research it when I have more time. I'm not totally convinced that 'climate change' is man-made, at least not as much as they say. There are so many factors. But then I'm not a scientist. I also think that accoding to the Bible there will be all kinds of unusual and catastrophic happenings in the End Times...how do we know which ar e natural, which caused by man..or by anything else!
I do think global cooling and global warming are both parts of a natural cycle. I do believe we are speeding up global warming but that just means that ocean levels will rise quicker, we'll have more natural disasters and then a super volcano will erupt blocking the sun from earth and causing the next time period of global cooling or an ice age

I dont believe this to be 100% fact but i do believe its a somewhat accurate summary of the cycles of global warming and global cooling based on a few documentaries i have seen over the years
 
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