The Second Coming not before 2065?

[PrattPratt]

I've just come across this piece of information in the new book The Jubilee Prophecy by an author named Steven Nichols. His theory is closely related to the Jewish Jubilee restorations, where he talks about the upcoming restoration of the Temple, after the two precious restorations in Israel - that of the land and that of Jerusalem, when they got back in Jewish hands.

According to him, each restoration is 49/50 years apart, and is explained through Jewish Jubilee. The last one was in 1967, when Jerusalem was restored, now, 50 years later, in 2016, if Jubilee decides to follow the restoration pattern, the Temple should be restored (and the preparations are ongoing, with the altar already built), and 50 years later, in 1965, the Christ will come to establish the Millennial Kingdom.

I just opened a page on facebook, and when selecting a year in the drop down menu, the menu extends only to 2065. Coincidence much? Don't think so!

I know we shouldn't set dates, but some of us like to be in the know. Your thoughts?

 

[parousia70]

I know we shouldn't set dates, but ....

There is no "But" clause to that admonition.

 

[Interplanner]

"To be in the know"? "I determined to know nothing but Christ and him crucified" says Paul in 1 Cor 2. I'm sure he knew about other things, but he meant his passion. The NT does not put 'knowing' how the end will end on the same level.

 

[PrattPratt]

I guess both y'all are right.

 

[TasManOfGod]

2016 seems pretty logical.

 

[Postvieww]

I've just come across this piece of information in the new book The Jubilee Prophecy by an author named Steven Nichols. His theory is closely related to the Jewish Jubilee restorations, where he talks about the upcoming restoration of the Temple, after the two precious restorations in Israel - that of the land and that of Jerusalem, when they got back in Jewish hands.

According to him, each restoration is 49/50 years apart, and is explained through Jewish Jubilee. The last one was in 1967, when Jerusalem was restored, now, 50 years later, in 2016, if Jubilee decides to follow the restoration pattern, the Temple should be restored (and the preparations are ongoing, with the altar already built), and 50 years later, in 1965, the Christ will come to establish the Millennial Kingdom.

I just opened a page on facebook, and when selecting a year in the drop down menu, the menu extends only to 2065. Coincidence much? Don't think so!

I know we shouldn't set dates, but some of us like to be in the know. Your thoughts?

This has all been done before. Dates have come and gone. At least we will probably know this is false too, well before then. Does anyone really believe the way this world is presently going we can last that long?

 

[PrattPratt]

There is a clear pattern given in the Scripture, and precursors to the big events to follow. This world absolutely will last that long, even with all of this going on. We've had wars, earthquakes, tsunamis and volcano eruptions millenniums ago, bloodshed everywhere, the world was in as much chaos then as it is now, we just didn't have tv and internet back then to hear about it, and now when we do, we feel like there's too much going on, when in fact there's not. The only real chaos today is modernization, that will usher the mark of the beast - we had mobile phones, now smart watches, and soon we'll have smart tattoos, 20 years from now. Forget about the micro chip, tattoos will be the thing, giving people access to everything, from their bank accounts and health files to their houses and cars, storing all the passwords and everything. The reason to usher them will be - they can't be forged, because they're part of you and encoded into you. They'll say it's the SAFEST thing, and there will be laws enforcing them, it will be your ID, your everything. You won't be able to do anything without it. But we still have some 15 -20 years before people massively accept it.

 

[Postvieww]

There is a clear pattern given in the Scripture, and precursors to the big events to follow. This world absolutely will last that long, even with all of this going on. We've had wars, earthquakes, tsunamis and volcano eruptions millenniums ago, bloodshed everywhere, the world was in as much chaos then as it is now, we just didn't have tv and internet back then to hear about it, and now when we do, we feel like there's too much going on, when in fact there's not. The only real chaos today is modernization, that will usher the mark of the beast - we had mobile phones, now smart watches, and soon we'll have smart tattoos, 20 years from now. Forget about the micro chip, tattoos will be the thing, giving people access to everything, from their bank accounts and health files to their houses and cars, storing all the passwords and everything. The reason to usher them will be - they can't be forged, because they're part of you and encoded into you. They'll say it's the SAFEST thing, and there will be laws enforcing them, it will be your ID, your everything. You won't be able to do anything without it. But we still have some 15 -20 years before people massively accept it.

2 Peter3: 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

I remember hearing that statement back in the 70’s and 80”s. “. We've had wars, earthquakes, tsunamis and volcano eruptions millenniums ago, bloodshed everywhere, the world was in as much chaos then as it is now” I respectfully disagree. While things have been bad in the past they have never been worse than today in a lot of respects. Just checkout the frequency and intensity of earthquakes now compared to years past. We are closing in on world war 3 in the Middle East at a breakneck pace. The Muslim world is rearing its ugly head and it from this area I believe the antichrist is currently alive and soon to be revealed. Research the effects the nuclear accident in Japan is having on the oceans of our planet. Christians are being slaughtered every day; I also believe we are in or at the beginning of the 5th seal of revelation. Then we have what I believe to be the soon judgment on this nation of our’s the USA.

Jesus said in Matt 24: 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

I have no disagreement with your technological assessment but to think this world can survive another 50 years is something I can’t see happening. I believe we are much closer than your theory portrays.Much more could be said here I've just scratched the surface.

Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

 

[PrattPratt]

I agree with the majority of things you said, and although I could be wrong about this time frame, I still stick to it. All that is going on right now isn't even close to what should take place prior to Christ's return. I personally believe we still have ways to go. I can't wait for the Kingdom to come! The sooner the better!

 

[Dave Watchman]

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• For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

• For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

-->Therefore you also must be ready,​

for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.​

 

[ivebeenshown]

There is a clear pattern given in the Scripture, and precursors to the big events to follow. This world absolutely will last that long, even with all of this going on. We've had wars, earthquakes, tsunamis and volcano eruptions millenniums ago, bloodshed everywhere, the world was in as much chaos then as it is now, we just didn't have tv and internet back then to hear about it, and now when we do, we feel like there's too much going on, when in fact there's not. The only real chaos today is modernization, that will usher the mark of the beast - we had mobile phones, now smart watches, and soon we'll have smart tattoos, 20 years from now. Forget about the micro chip, tattoos will be the thing, giving people access to everything, from their bank accounts and health files to their houses and cars, storing all the passwords and everything. The reason to usher them will be - they can't be forged, because they're part of you and encoded into you. They'll say it's the SAFEST thing, and there will be laws enforcing them, it will be your ID, your everything. You won't be able to do anything without it. But we still have some 15 -20 years before people massively accept it.

I agree with your general sentiment. I am not sure exactly which form the mark of the beast will take, though I have convinced myself that the image of the beast is a sophisticated quantum artificial intelligence and the mark is some form of integration with 'the system', which would even prevent a person from having any further chance to believe the gospel.

As for your statement about the chaos being no different, that may be true in some sense, but I believe that we are starting to see an increase of momentum toward those events. My own opinion of the climatological data is that we are seeing a rapidly increasing destabilization of the environment. It is too complex to put a date or time on any of it, but when things destabilize to a certain point, "nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom" in a multitude of wars for food and water. Antibiotic resistant bacteria and other microorganisms combined with a failing healthcare system and malnourishment will be the death of many. The destabilized environment would probably spur other woes, such as earthquakes and anomalous weather events, supplementing the tribulation in a symbiotic manner.

The false prophet who directs the implementation of the image of the beast and the economic system with 'the mark' will have little trouble convincing the masses to enroll in his utopian fables, even those who go to church on Sunday and decorate their homes with crosses.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I've just come across this piece of information in the new book The Jubilee Prophecy by an author named Steven Nichols. His theory is closely related to the Jewish Jubilee restorations, where he talks about the upcoming restoration of the Temple, after the two precious restorations in Israel - that of the land and that of Jerusalem, when they got back in Jewish hands.

According to him, each restoration is 49/50 years apart, and is explained through Jewish Jubilee. The last one was in 1967, when Jerusalem was restored, now, 50 years later, in 2016, if Jubilee decides to follow the restoration pattern, the Temple should be restored (and the preparations are ongoing, with the altar already built), and 50 years later, in 1965, the Christ will come to establish the Millennial Kingdom.

I just opened a page on facebook, and when selecting a year in the drop down menu, the menu extends only to 2065. Coincidence much? Don't think so!

I know we shouldn't set dates, but some of us like to be in the know. Your thoughts?

Sir Isaac Newton was the first to speculate this date 2060. Though I don't believe anyone is able through the wisdom of man to unlock the date, I personally don't think we have that long. But I am not dogmatic.

 

[Hazrus]

The Bible makes it clear that whenever anyone says "this is the date", they are wrong.
(1 Thessalonians 5)

 

[BABerean2]

if Jubilee decides to follow the restoration pattern, the Temple should be restored (and the preparations are ongoing, with the altar already built), and 50 years later, in 1965, the Christ will come to establish the Millennial Kingdom.

All Christians should understand why God allowed the Romans to destroy the second temple in 70 AD.

At the moment Christ died on the Cross, God ripped the temple veil in half, showing this was the end of animal sacrifices.
It was the fulfillment of the New Blood Covenant found in Jeremiah chapter 31. It is "now" in effect, based on Hebrews 8:6.

Building another temple and renewal of animal sacrifices, would be another rejection of God's Son and the New Covenant fulfilled by His Blood.

Any timeline that claims a 3rd temple would be pleasing to God, is faulty.

Jesus Christ is the New Covenant temple.

Joh_2:19 Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."

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[Dave Watchman]

Sir Isaac Newton was the first to speculate this date 2060. Though I don't believe anyone is able through the wisdom of man to unlock the date, I personally don't think we have that long. But I am not dogmatic.

I don't think that we have that long either nor would I be dogmatic over it. I would tend to be more cautious of mentioning a far off date on the chance that it happened sooner. On one of these threads a guy said something like: "I think we've got one foot in the tribulation", I thought it a little humorous.

I've read some of Sir Isaac Newton's notes and found them spooky. I believe 2060 was just a smoke screen to quiet the speculation that had run amok during his day. What I think the real Newton date was is the completion of 2018 and into the first month of 2019. Newton gave those dates in an indirect way without ever mentioning them.

He did this with a unique interpretation of Daniel 9 which he believed not only precisely predicted the first coming of Jesus but also held the information to identify His second coming. He believed that the first "seven" of 49 years would also predict the second Advent and be calculated from a future decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.

So in the late 1600s, Newton was sure that Israel would be reborn as a nation and a future decree would be made to restore and build Jerusalem. Everybody knows about the war that captured Jerusalem in 1967 but there was no official governmental decree to restore and rebuild it. Then on April 1, 1969 on Passover eve the Knesset voted for the establishment of a corporation for the restoration of Old Jerusalem.

Suleiman the Magnificent also decreed that Jerusalem’s walls be rebuilt in AD 1535 and some of that construction still stands. Note that 483 years later (69 weeks of years) is 2018, which is a 70 year "generation" from the creation of Israel in 1948.

Even when the 62 weeks of 434 years is added to the 1535 Suleiman decree it brings us to the 1969 Knesset decree. It starts to have the feel that when the correct decree is found that there will be some type of mathematical fulfillment.

With the Decree of Suleiman the Magnificent in 1535, it does seem possible that a secondary application of the prophecy may indeed fit. The odds of a 434 year (62 week) gap between decrees to rebuild Jerusalem must be fairly slim. Whatever is going on with all this, it does seem strange. I'm giving myself goosebumps. Send the note or cancel it, Send the note or cancel it, Send it or cancel it. eenie meenie minie moe catch a heptad by the toe if he hollers let me go eenie meenie minie moe.

A week of years is a heptad or a seven.

7 weeks is 49 years

62 weeks is 434 years

1 week is 7 years

1535 + 69 sevens of 483 years = 2018

1535 + 62 sevens of 434 years = 1969

1969 + a seven of 49 years = 2018

1948 + a generation of 70 years = 2018

Google: 1969 decree to restore Jerusalem

https://www.google.ca/search?client...&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&gws_rd=ssl


http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=6&d1=26&y1=2015&m2=1&d2=6&y2=2019

http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar/2019-january-6

http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/lunar/2019-january-21

 

[Gideon]

I've just come across this piece of information in the new book The Jubilee Prophecy by an author named Steven Nichols. His theory is closely related to the Jewish Jubilee restorations, where he talks about the upcoming restoration of the Temple, after the two precious restorations in Israel - that of the land and that of Jerusalem, when they got back in Jewish hands.

According to him, each restoration is 49/50 years apart, and is explained through Jewish Jubilee. The last one was in 1967, when Jerusalem was restored, now, 50 years later, in 2016, if Jubilee decides to follow the restoration pattern, the Temple should be restored (and the preparations are ongoing, with the altar already built), and 50 years later, in 1965, the Christ will come to establish the Millennial Kingdom.

I just opened a page on facebook, and when selecting a year in the drop down menu, the menu extends only to 2065. Coincidence much? Don't think so!

I know we shouldn't set dates, but some of us like to be in the know. Your thoughts?

The Shemitah 'blood moon' prophecies proved to be wrong, and now they are getting on to the 'Jubilee' bandwagon. I feared this might happen when I posted a poll about it on the link below.

Why Modern Jubilee Prophecies are Wrong!

An understanding of the Jubilee is well worth exploring, but be assured, it is not about some temple in the future.

 

[Douggg]

I've just come across this piece of information in the new book The Jubilee Prophecy by an author named Steven Nichols. His theory is closely related to the Jewish Jubilee restorations, where he talks about the upcoming restoration of the Temple, after the two precious restorations in Israel - that of the land and that of Jerusalem, when they got back in Jewish hands.

According to him, each restoration is 49/50 years apart, and is explained through Jewish Jubilee. The last one was in 1967, when Jerusalem was restored, now, 50 years later, in 2016, if Jubilee decides to follow the restoration pattern, the Temple should be restored (and the preparations are ongoing, with the altar already built), and 50 years later, in 1965, the Christ will come to establish the Millennial Kingdom.

I just opened a page on facebook, and when selecting a year in the drop down menu, the menu extends only to 2065. Coincidence much? Don't think so!

I know we shouldn't set dates, but some of us like to be in the know. Your thoughts?

The first question that should be asked regarding these sorts of theories - did Jesus speak about his return in terms of Jubilee's ?

No, what Jesus spoke about was learn a parable of the fig tree. Jerusalem is the fig tree, back in the hands of the Jews in 1967, which 70 years later is the limit of that generation. 2037 comes long before 2065.

Not only that (we must acknowledge that the original post of this thread was May 2015) but there have been significant developments concerning Russia in the middle east, and Syria in particular, in recent months to think that Gog/Magog is not that far away.

Jesus said when he comes, how many will he find that have faith and are praying. "seek ye first the Kingdom of God".

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

 

[BABerean2]

Jerusalem is the fig tree

Mat 21:18 Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.

Mat 21:19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.


Mat_21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
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[Douggg]

Mat 21:18 Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.

Mat 21:19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.


Mat_21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
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Israel was not a nation back then; the region was divided up into Samaria, Galilee, and Judea. The kingdom of God was taken from that generation living there in Jerusalem.

In 1948, Israel became the nation again (since the time of Solomon), but since the fig tree comparison was to Jerusalem, the consideration has to be to that generation which the Jews gained possession of Jerusalem again, in 1967. So we have the nation, and Jerusalem the fig tree, but no fruit yet.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Israel was not a nation back then; the region was divided up into Samaria, Galilee, and Judea. The kingdom of God was taken from that generation living there in Jerusalem.

In 1948, Israel became the nation again (since the time of Solomon), but since the fig tree comparison was to Jerusalem, the consideration has to be to that generation which the Jews gained possession of Jerusalem again, in 1967. So we have the nation, and Jerusalem the fig tree, but no fruit yet.

Yes, this makes sense to me. If the fig tree is Jerusalem, then, 50 years will be 2017.70 years will be 2037, I cannot be dogmatic about any date, but, we know our Lord comes. I am dogmatic about that. And I believe it is sooner than any of us think.