The Schumer Shutdown

Servus · Friday at 9:50 AM

A2SG said:
Let's hope they don't forget that Republicans want their health insurance to go way up.

The current reality is their SNAP expires tomorrow thanks to the Democrat shutdown.

Servus · Friday at 9:52 AM

JosephZ said:
SNAP has a contingency reserve available that the Trump administration refuses to release. There were also two proposals that would keep SNAP funded during the shutdown, one by the Democrats (Keep SNAP and WIC Funded Act) and another by Republican Senator Josh Hawley, which was co-sponsored by 11 other Republicans (Keep SNAP Funded Act). Senate Majority Leader John Thune blocked a vote on both this week. That's what the people who will have to go without SNAP benefits will remember.

If people are not getting SNAP it's because of the Democrat shutdown.

JosephZ · Friday at 10:04 AM

Servus said:
If people are not getting SNAP it's because of the Democrat shutdown.

But the people don't have to go without SNAP during the shutdown. Why doesn't the Senate majority leader hold a vote on proposals that would allow them to continue? Why doesn't the Trump administration use the SNAP contingency funds?

Servus · Friday at 10:28 AM

JosephZ said:
But the people don't have to go without SNAP during the shutdown. Why doesn't the Senate majority leader hold a vote on proposals that would allow them to continue? Why doesn't the Trump administration use the SNAP contingency funds?

It's a matter of the Democrats ending the shutdown they put in place.

JosephZ · Friday at 10:47 AM

Servus said:
It's a matter of the Democrats ending the shutdown they put in place.

SNAP benefits have always continued during a shutdown in the past; the USDA had a plan in place as recently as four weeks ago to keep SNAP benefits going during a government shutdown by using contingency funds, and both parties have introduced plans to prevent SNAP benefits from ending tomorrow. It doesn't matter which party is responsible for the shutdown; there are ways to keep SNAP from going unfunded. If SNAP benefits are not distributed in November, it's the Republican leadership that's to blame for that.

rambot · Friday at 10:53 AM

Aldebaran said:
Looks like the MSM narrative worked on some people.

I didn't know this was about me.

It's not but it undermines the argument.

rambot · Friday at 10:57 AM

Servus said:
It's a matter of the Democrats ending the shutdown they put in place.

SNAP Benefits for 42 Million People Could Still Be Saved During the Shutdown

Oh look.

There's a work around...several actually.

I wonder when the party with all the power would make SURE they would do everything they can to support poor Americans.
No they won't.

I've seen the awful things on social media....people like matt walsh arguing that the poor people buying groceries "drive up the price of groceries" and now that there is no snap funding, prices will drop because demand will go down.

I mean, it's not only awful, it's braindead stupid and it's fueled by anger. There's people absolutely LOVING that poor people aren't getting fed and you'd NEVER guess which side of the political things these people sit on.

Say it aint so · Friday at 11:01 AM

Servus said:
It's a matter of the Democrats ending the shutdown they put in place.

JosephZ said:
SNAP benefits have always continued during a shutdown in the past; the USDA had a plan in place as recently as four weeks ago to keep SNAP benefits going during a government shutdown by using contingency funds, and both parties have introduced plans to prevent SNAP benefits from ending tomorrow. It doesn't matter which party is responsible for the shutdown; there are ways to keep SNAP from going unfunded. If SNAP benefits are not distributed in November, it's the Republican leadership that's to blame for that.

Shutdown 2025:

“The crucial point here is that the Trump administration is choosing to violate the law and choosing not to spend money it has available to it to pay for food for poor people,“ said Samuel Bagenstos, former general counsel to the Office of Management and Budget, referring to requirements laid out in the Food and Nutrition Act.

The former general counsel of the Office of Management and Budget says the Trump administration isn’t “just wrong” to claim that using the money would violate the law. “It’s very likely that they’re violating the law by not using this money that’s sitting there,” he said.

Bagenstos said the Trump administration isn’t “just wrong” to claim that using the money would violate the law. “It’s very likely that they’re violating the law by not using this money that’s sitting there,” he said."

Trump could with the snap of his finger or a musing on Truth Social make sure SNAP benefits are released. Just like it happened during the 34 day shutdown over border wall money that Trump said Mexico would pay for.

Always in His Presence · Friday at 11:01 AM

rambot said:
I wonder when the party with all the power would make SURE they would do everything they can to support poor Americans.

If they 'have all the power' why are they not opening the government?

rambot · Friday at 11:02 AM

Senate Republicans Block Democratic Effort to Fund SNAP During the Shutdown
Oh! The Republicans actually worked to STOP people from getting fed; like, ACTIVELY blocking efforts for poor people to get food.

Boy, I wonder what Turning Point USA would say about this effort to make the poor suffer. Probably nothing because they're not interested in helping poor people if it is done through taxes.

rambot · Friday at 11:06 AM

Always in His Presence said:
If they 'have all the power' why are they not opening the government?

Because they are choosing not to negotiate a settlement with Democrats. ie....they are not WORKING toward a solution. They just want their way 100%.

Simple.
Next.

camille70 · Friday at 11:38 AM

Always in His Presence said:
If they 'have all the power' why are they not opening the government?

They do have the power and Trump is finally telling them to use it, as dems have suggested all along, by ending the filibuster.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1984203673296162949

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

I just got back from Asia where I met the Leaders of many Countries, including China, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Singapore, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, and others. It was a Great Honor to meet them but, more particularly, to see that America is respected again...

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Servus · Friday at 11:59 AM

rambot said:
SNAP Benefits for 42 Million People Could Still Be Saved During the Shutdown

Oh look.

There's a work around...several actually.

I wonder when the party with all the power would make SURE they would do everything they can to support poor Americans.
No they won't.

I've seen the awful things on social media....people like matt walsh arguing that the poor people buying groceries "drive up the price of groceries" and now that there is no snap funding, prices will drop because demand will go down.

I mean, it's not only awful, it's braindead stupid and it's fueled by anger. There's people absolutely LOVING that poor people aren't getting fed and you'd NEVER guess which side of the political things these people sit on.

The work around is the Democrats ending the shutdown they started.

JosephZ · Friday at 12:10 PM

Servus said:
The work around is the Democrats ending the shutdown they started.

Who started the shutdown or how it ends is irrelevant. Trump and the Republican leadership are making the choice to allow SNAP benefits to go unfunded, and they alone will be responsible if SNAP benefits are not available next month.

Always in His Presence · Friday at 12:19 PM

rambot said:
Because they are choosing not to negotiate a settlement with Democrats. ie....they are not WORKING toward a solution. They just want their way 100%.

Simple.
Next.

If they have all they power - they would not need to negotiate.

Servus · Friday at 12:20 PM

JosephZ said:
Who started the shutdown or how it ends is irrelevant. Trump and the Republican leadership are making the choice to allow SNAP benefits to go unfunded, and they alone will be responsible if SNAP benefits are not available next month.

It's plenty relevant. The Democrats started it and it will end when they finally end it. As opposed to if this and if that. That's just shifting blame to avoid accountability.

JosephZ · Friday at 12:24 PM

Servus said:
It's plenty relevant. The Democrats started it and it will end when they finally end it. As opposed to if this and if that. That's just shifting blame to avoid accountability.

Who is blocking SNAP from being funded right now?

rambot · Friday at 12:27 PM

Always in His Presence said:
If they have all they power - they would not need to negotiate.

No. They HAVE all the power because they can CHOOSE to negotiate to get it passed. When they choose NOT to negotiate, they are exerting their power too.

And when they BLOCK legislation to feed the poor, it kinda shows you their hand; If a person cares of course....

rambot · Friday at 12:28 PM

Servus said:
The work around is the Democrats ending the shutdown they started.

Denying the reality that REpublicans are STOPPING people from getting fed by deflecting to a seperate issue doesn't make Republican government officials innocent.

Servus · Friday at 12:41 PM

rambot said:
Denying the reality that REpublicans are STOPPING people from getting fed by deflecting to a seperate issue doesn't make Republican government officials innocent.

The issue is the Schumer shutdown. Anything else is the deflection.

The Schumer Shutdown

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