The Schumer Shutdown

eclipsenow · 2025-10-08T04:46:17-0500

Vambram said:
You have not provided anything from successful non-partisan universities or from reputable government agencies.

I have. You just disagree with the conclusions and so anything you don't like is fake news. What is this MAGA denial of reality? Is it that by following the father of lies (Trump) it means you can no longer distinguish the truth?

Or do you just get in the habit of calling anything you don't like lies? Genuine questions - because I have trouble understanding how America has fallen to the point where a vaccine denier is the head of the department of health, and a big lie conspiracy theorist like Patel is the head of the FBI.

America is a post-truth country, and Trump is the father of all that

Always in His Presence · 2025-10-08T08:25:41-0500

Over the last 15 years Democratic Senators, including Schumer, has spoken very strongly AGAINST shutting the government down as a political tactic to get an agenda accomplished.

They all supported and voted for clean CR’s

Why the complete opposite?

A2SG · 2025-10-08T09:19:10-0500

Always in His Presence said:
Over the last 15 years Democratic Senators, including Schumer, has spoken very strongly AGAINST shutting the government down as a political tactic to get an agenda accomplished.

They all supported and voted for clean CR’s

Why the complete opposite?

Maybe they feel that retaining health care subsidies for those who need it is worth it.

-- A2SG, though, had the GOP been willing to negotiate, it needn't have happened this way....

Always in His Presence · 2025-10-08T10:13:01-0500

A2SG said:
Maybe they feel that retaining health care subsidies for those who need it is worth it.

-- A2SG, though, had the GOP been willing to negotiate, it needn't have happened this way....

No, it did not need to happen this way - it could have happened in November when it was originally scheduled and agreed upon - hmmm.. why the need to change? I wonder.

eclipsenow · 2025-10-08T10:41:39-0500

Always in His Presence said:
Over the last 15 years Democratic Senators, including Schumer, has spoken very strongly AGAINST shutting the government down as a political tactic to get an agenda accomplished.

They all supported and voted for clean CR’s

Why the complete opposite?

Because the big beautiful bill will kill an extra 50,000 Americans a year by knocking them off healthcare!

Fantine · 2025-10-08T12:10:56-0500

There is no "Schumer shutdown."

And since the Trump administration has proven themselves untrustworthy in every single contact they've had with Democrats (and with the American people--look at his campaign promises) Schumer is correct to do his best for 26 million Americans on the ACA, and many thousands of hospital and medical employees who will lose their jobs if their services become unaffordable to 26 million Americans and demand drops drastically.

Vambram · 2025-10-08T12:32:45-0500

eclipsenow said:
I have. You just disagree with the conclusions and so anything you don't like is fake news. What is this MAGA denial of reality? Is it that by following the father of lies (Trump) it means you can no longer distinguish the truth?

Or do you just get in the habit of calling anything you don't like lies? Genuine questions - because I have trouble understanding how America has fallen to the point where a vaccine denier is the head of the department of health, and a big lie conspiracy theorist like Patel is the head of the FBI.

America is a post-truth country, and Trump is the father of all that

I am not denying reality at all. I have not called anything in your posts lies. What I have said is that your sources are predicting and estimating stuff and also that your sources are not reliable.

Vambram · 2025-10-08T12:33:40-0500

eclipsenow said:
Because the big beautiful bill will kill an extra 50,000 Americans a year by knocking them off healthcare!

No. That is not accurate at all.

Vambram · 2025-10-08T12:34:50-0500

Kennedy says Schumer 'nervous as a pregnant nun' as socialist wing tightens grip amid government shutdown

Sen. John Kennedy predicts Sen. Chuck Schumer will quietly turn to Democrats to end the stalemate after bowing to far-left pressure with the "political shutdown."

www.foxnews.com

Vambram · 2025-10-08T12:35:43-0500

Government shutdown enters new phase with halted paychecks, failed votes | Fox News Video

Fox News senior congressional correspondent Chad Pergram reports on the shutdown as Capitol Hill faces halted paychecks, new test votes and mounting pressure as federal workers await funding.

www.foxnews.com

eclipsenow · 2025-10-08T19:07:10-0500

Fantine said:
There is no "Schumer shutdown."

And since the Trump administration has proven themselves untrustworthy in every single contact they've had with Democrats (and with the American people--look at his campaign promises) Schumer is correct to do his best for 26 million Americans on the ACA, and many thousands of hospital and medical employees who will lose their jobs if their services become unaffordable to 26 million Americans and demand drops drastically.

You wouldn't be referring to releasing the Epstein files would you? Come on - as Trump said - are people still talking about that?

(Quick! Send the National Guard into Chicago - that'll flood the zone and put them off the Epstein thing for a bit!)

bèlla · 2025-10-08T19:12:24-0500

Military families brace for missed paychecks as shutdown impacts are already accumulating

Service members did receive a paycheck on October 1, but with Congress seemingly still gridlocked, families are figuring out how they’ll cope if their pay doesn’t arrive on October 15 as scheduled.

In the last week, military children have already seen after-school programs and activities canceled en masse due to the slowing of federal funds to military schools, disrupting any sense of relative normalcy those families depend on, two of the sources told CNN.

“All activities, even homework club, which some kids absolutely need to maintain their academics,” have been paused, said a third spouse, who is stationed in Guam. “These kids have already made sacrifices for the government, like their dad missing more birthdays and holidays than I can count, and unfairly have this burden too.”

Some of the programs serve as essential child care for service members who work long hours often with little flexibility in their schedules.

~bella

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/08/politics/military-families-government-shutdown

bèlla · 2025-10-08T19:16:04-0500

Johnson, in shift, signals no vote during shutdown for military pay

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) on Wednesday signaled opposition to moving a stand-alone bill to pay military service members during a government shutdown, walking back his Tuesday statement saying he was open to holding such a vote.

If the shutdown drags on and Congress does not pass a bill to pay the troops or reopen the government, Oct. 15 will mark the first time in the modern times that service members missed a paycheck during a government shutdown. In previous shutdowns, Congress had either already funded the military or passed a measure to ensure troop pay.

Asked in a press conference Wednesday if he would move a bill by unanimous consent to pay the troops if the shutdown drags into next week — which would not require bringing back all House members to vote if there were no objections — Johnson signaled he would not.

~bella

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5545001-mike-johnson-military-pay-bill-shutdown/

camille70 · 2025-10-08T19:41:51-0500

I posted this in the other shutdown thread, but I meant to post it here.

Marjorie Taylor Greene on twitter...

"The Republican controlled Senate used the nuclear option today to override the 60 vote rule in order to confirm over 100 Trump nominees, yet continues to claim Democrats are causing the shutdown.

Spoiler alert, the Republicans in the Senate can also use the nuclear option to reopen the government and override the Democrats just like they literally did today to confirm Trump nominees."

https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1975735067503677754

Vambram · 2025-10-08T19:50:50-0500

IRS workforce slashed in half as government shutdown showdown stretches into second week

The IRS implements contingency plans during the government shutdown, suspending taxpayer services while maintaining tax processing and criminal investigations.

www.foxnews.com

Vambram · 2025-10-08T19:52:55-0500

A dizzying ride on the Hill: Lawmakers debate in circles as shutdown enters week two

Congress appears utterly paralyzed as the latest government shutdown trudges on, with lawmakers unable to muster up the votes to end it.

www.foxnews.com

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-10-08T20:26:14-0500

Greatest democracy on earth eh

eclipsenow · 2025-10-08T21:07:12-0500

It's funny how unstable the USA's Presidential system is. The USA's democracy seems to be one of the rare times the whole concept was designed from the ground up. Most former British Empire nations inherited the Westminster System of Parliamentary democracy - which has slowly evolved over time rather than being designed bespoke.

Australia had something similar to a 'government shutdown' in 1975 which resulted in "The Dismissal" when the Governor General - for the first and only time in our history - sent a telegram to her Majesty to inform her that he was firing our Prime Minister! It's 50 years this year - so no doubt Aussies are going to be flooded with Dismissal doco's.

But this whole business of the Federal government shutting down seems to happen every few administrations in the US. That's very messy - very messy indeed!

A2SG · 2025-10-08T23:08:32-0500

Always in His Presence said:
No, it did not need to happen this way - it could have happened in November when it was originally scheduled and agreed upon - hmmm.. why the need to change? I wonder.

Wait, wait.... are you claiming that the GOP agreed to extend the ACA subsidies last November, well before the so-called Big Beautiful Bill passed? Cool. Could you please provide documentation on that, so I can save it and frame it for posterity?

-- A2SG, unless you meant something else...your post wasn't exactly clear.....

Always in His Presence · 2025-10-09T02:27:56-0500

A2SG said:
Wait, wait.... are you claiming that the GOP agreed to extend the ACA subsidies last November, well before the so-called Big Beautiful Bill passed? Cool. Could you please provide documentation on that, so I can save it and frame it for posterity?

-- A2SG, unless you meant something else...your post wasn't exactly clear.....

it could have happened in November when it was originally scheduled and agreed upon -

it is scheduled for THIS November to be in committee. Schumer is using it as an excuse.

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