What is the true sabbath day? Is it sinful for me to worship on Sunday? I mean, doesn't God want us to worship every day, not just on the Sabbath?
1) Peter R. Kraemer, Catholic Church Extension Society (1975),Chicago, Illinois.
"Regarding the change from the observance of the Jewish Sabbath to the Christian Sunday, I wish to draw your attention to the facts:
"1) That Protestants, who accept the Bible as the only rule of faith and religion, should by all means go back to the observance of the Sabbath. The fact that they do not, but on the contrary observe the Sunday, stultifies them in the eyes of every thinking man.
"2) We Catholics do not accept the Bible as the only rule of faith. Besides the Bible we have the living Church, the authority of the Church, as a rule to guide us. We say, this Church, instituted by Christ to teach and guide man through life, has the right to change the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament and hence, we accept her change of the Sabbath to Sunday. We frankly say, yes, the Church made this change, made this law, as she made many other laws, for instance, the Friday abstinence, the unmarried priesthood, the laws concerning mixed marriages, the regulation of Catholic marriages and a thousand other laws.
"It is always somewhat laughable, to see the Protestant churches, in pulpit and legislation, demand the observance of Sunday, of which there is nothing in their Bible."
2) James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of our Fathers, 88th ed., pp. 89.
"But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify."
3) Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism 3rd ed., p. 174.
"Question: Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
"Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her-she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."
4) James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore (1877-1921), in a signed letter.
"Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day -Saturday - for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes . Did Christ change the day'? I answer no!
"Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons"
5) The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."
6) Catholic Virginian Oct. 3, 1947, p. 9, art. "To Tell You the Truth."
"For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the[Roman Catholic] church outside the Bible."
7) Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957), p. 50.
"Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
"Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Answer. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."
8) T. Enright, C.S.S.R., in a lecture at Hartford, Kansas, Feb. 18,1884.
"I have repeatedly offered $1,000 to anyone who can prove to me from the Bible alone that I am bound to keep Sunday holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy Catholic Church alone. The Bible says, 'Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.' The Catholic Church says: 'No. By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week.' And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in a reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church."
9) D. L. Moody, Weighed and Wanting (Fleming H. Revell Co.: New York), pp. 47, 48.
The Sabbath was binding in Eden, and it has been in force ever since. This fourth commandment begins with the word 'remember,' showing that the Sabbath already existed when God Wrote the law on the tables of stone at Sinai. How can men claim that this one commandment has been done away with when they will admit that the other nine are still binding?"
inaudiblemelody said:What is the true sabbath day? Is it sinful for me to worship on Sunday? I mean, doesn't God want us to worship every day, not just on the Sabbath?
inaudiblemelody said:What is the true sabbath day? Is it sinful for me to worship on Sunday? I mean, doesn't God want us to worship every day, not just on the Sabbath?
This will need to a no sense , you know why ? Because we are just giving up verse , we are not giving the description or the context of the chapters. This is way I think that this will lead to nowhere. But I will just show this even if it is in the OT and that people think that we should not follow the Old law anymore. When I've read the thing that said that people were brainwashed and were indoctrined (SDA) I've just said to myself : Pass. It is your opinion and I could say thing like that but I am not here to turn down a denomination.Colossians said:"There therefore remaineth a rest for the people of God: that he that has entered into His rest has ceased from his own works as God did from His."
If you feel it necessary to keep the Sabbath, then you have yet to realise what it is you are supposed to be resting from.
I thought this says my feelings to your insults very well! purhaps too harsh but buddy in my eyes you are out of line, on a tangent i have never een before! since i know you want to love Jesus I shall respond!Oradan, Book of os-chk(being watchful),
You are blind and hindered by words! Blind of all that matters! empty of anything that is love! You forget love in your repulsion, and make waste of the fruits that lead you to grace
I say sunset-to-sunset is because I go off the Hebrew calendar, because my lord and savior followed it!Colossians said:If you were God, would you care where the position of the earth was in relation to the sun with regard to those with whom you communed with eternally? (I bet you don't confront this question honestly.
LOL, LoL, Oo, Well I set every day to worship God, but this day is special because the lord anointed it, I do find rest in our Father in heaven, I am sorry you do not!Colossians said:So you set apart a day to rest by working? This shows that you do not understand what it is you are to rest from. (See my answer to Inaudible above.)
OK, so your saying God must then either command or love! because in that case your just plain whack, cause even my earthly father does that!Colossians said:the lord demands
"God is love."
"Love does not demand".
Therefore God does not demand.
QED.
Obedience comes of faith, love and trust! I follow my examples Abraham, David, Job and Jesus, ect.Colossians said:both faith and law,
"No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment". Mt 9:16
So basically in your mind, you listen to your self and not to the words of the living God!Colossians said:however one complements the other and faith must be the starting point.
"The law is not of faith". Gal 3.
I would be referring to making a whole lot of: what can be done, and what cannot be done! I am sorry you misunderstoodColossians said:Also and I think more importantly remember not to let the day you do set apart become burdensome, because you do it out of love and faith in the lord, and that does not involve burden.
If it is a burden, then it is no use pretending it is not. God wants honesty, not mental gymnastics. The fact that you have to convince yourself and others it is not a burden, is proof that it is.
No-one needs to be convinced that a 3-week vacation at Waikiki is not a burden.
LOL, in fear eh,Colossians said:let me try and explain .. why some Christian keep it so close to their hearts.
You are simply living in fear of not keeping it, and convincing yourself in your mind that you do it out of love.
But you are in a bind. For you know your resulting peril of mind were you to abstain from your Sabbath-keeping. You pretend it is optional, but deep down inside you are scared not to keep it: therefore you are bound by law. You are not free.
First, circumcision is no different then baptism, of course I would never expect you to understand that, it is clear you are not at that point yet. I pray you get there soon.Colossians said:When you set apart The Sabbath, you do it simply because the Lord directly told you to,
The Lord directed the Israelites to keep it as a sign of sanctification (Ex 31). The NT tells us we are sanctified by the Holy Ghost, therefore we have no need of an external sign - it is as redundant as circumcision.
You know nothing of how I came to this, this came from much prayer and crying out for help and understanding!Colossians said:The reason you set aside your saturday as a supposed 'sabbath' is simply because someone in the church you have stumbled into (most likely SDA) has brainwashed you with intensive indoctrination and sophistry of semantics, twisting the semantics of the dispenstations of grace and law, and not rightly dividing the Word. If you are honest with yourself, you will take a hard look at why a 'gospel' which is supposed to set you free has made you less free than when you were a non-believer.
And you will look to Jesus alone.
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