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The Ransom Theory of Atonement!

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Here's a link that discusses this theory,

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_atone7.htm

Ransom view of atonment was the dominant belief for centuries in the early church, but at some point it was replaced with a different view!!!

How can Christians just get rid of a belief that was accepted by church leaders for about a millennium?


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Quote "Origen believed that Satan accepted the offer because he assumed that he would end up with ownership of Yeshua. The devil didn't realize that Yeshua would escape his clutches. God deceitfully pulled a "bait and switch" operation by resurrecting Yeshua a day and a half after his death on the cross. This left Satan without any reward." End quote.

Revelation tells us that satan is getting his right reward, getting thrown into a lake of fire, and a battle with God. I don't know anywhere in the Bible God ever agreed to pay Satan with His Son Jesus, and then pulling a bait-n-switch.

I think many contemporary christianity are not so interested in discussions of Satan that aren't clearly detailed in the Bible. Even the ones that are, are very much debated, there are divisions about the end times which includes Satan talks. I personally don't see this Ransom Theory as something so important that it will have much affect on our being saved or not, which may be why many are not very interested, but that's just my opinion. I recommend focus on Jesus, and continue in Bible, especially New Testament.
 
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In reading the statement of belief from the site this article is taken from, I can see that it is devoted to Humanism. It's motive, therefore, is to cast dispersion and doubt on true Christian belief, or at the least, dilute the teaching of the Bible. It's proclamation that this "Ransom" theory was one of the doctrines of early church teaching may be stretching the truth a little. This doctrine was certainly not taught by the New Testament writers, and other than Origen, not any of the other prolific post-apostolic teachers that I am aware of. Certainly however, this is one of the many heretical beliefs that were circulated, and it is not surprising that it fell by the wayside as such teachings usually do.
 
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Here's a link that discusses this theory,

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_atone7.htm

Ransom view of atonment was the dominant belief for centuries in the early church, but at some point it was replaced with a different view!!!

How can Christians just get rid of a belief that was accepted by church leaders for about a millennium?


MB.

Without having read the link, you have to remember the early fathers were merely students of the writings of the Apostles just as we are. They had no special authority in their interpretations. They did remarkably well, but were not perfect. They definitely didn't have the original language skills of many later theologians. Understanding doctrine is a building process and they were the very initial blocks. We've built much from their foundation, but must be careful to tear down any foundation that wasn't a part of the original foundation. As Paul said,

1Cor. 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.

Christianity is based on the special revelation of God's prophets, whom He used to write the Bible. Traditions will stand or fall based on their biblical derivation.
 
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Great insight in the above posts.

Your question is valid. We are always responsible to maintain the least cluttered, straightest pathway to truth; the closest path between two points is a straight line.

We can learn from diverse teachings, and certainly gain from them, but teachings can so easily lead us off track if we don't keep our focus on primary source information.

Off track --there's a statement at the end of this article which is a little too blanketed for my comfort--

Gary E. Gilley, of Biblical Discernment Ministries writes that Morris Cerullo, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Benny Hinn, Robert Tilton, and others in the Word-faith Movement teach a modern-day variation of the Ransom Theory. Their concept is that when Yeshua descended into Hell after his death, he was tormented by Satan and all his demons. The suffering that he experienced during this torture was the ransom that God paid to Satan.
Gilley writes this, but I have never heard this taught, not from the men listed or any other teacher.

Jesus left His body to return to His godly form, which demons bow to. Even in Jesus' human body, the demons were afraid of Him. He easily took authority over them.

The teachers listed above support Jesus' teaching that we have all authority over demons. So there's really no reason for Jesus to be spiritually tortured. Our sins are not the same thing as the powers of supernatural beings. We are all separate entities, responsible for our actions. Jesus giving in to demonic abuse doesn't atone for anything.

 
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Here's a link that discusses this theory,

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_atone7.htm

Ransom view of atonment was the dominant belief for centuries in the early church, but at some point it was replaced with a different view!!!

How can Christians just get rid of a belief that was accepted by church leaders for about a millennium?


MB.
The early church was not wrong. Jesus' sacrifice was a symbolic ransom, not a literal ransom to the devil.

The Devil always tries to mislead humans and through Jesus' sacrifice god provided a way to people to be saved. It's a metaphorical ransom.
 
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