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I often wonder what current education in the USA is about, what its purpose is..... I see a lot of twisting going out "out there" due to political correctness, lgbt issues, left-wing / right-wing, all overpowering the process, leaving it in distorted disarray. I note that the expertise of our college / university graduates is not up to the challenge of organization in a dis-organized environment.
from my own self I would define education as something like "to learn" or "to know". so education seems to me to be a naturally occurring part of human existence.
You didn't.. I'm no authority on this stuff but spending a bit of time thinking about things like this make for nice puzzles.. Gets me away from my Sudoku...And a valid point. I didn't mean to disparage it.
Educating the masses to gain power and control over them.. This isn't education, its indoctrination and its a very different thing.
Humans are social animals. Very few of us could survive without society. If we live in society our independence must be subordinated to our interdependence. Or to put it another way, "Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose..."When education becomes, or includes, indoctrination - which, I would argue, is nearly all of the time - is when it detracts from independence rather than enhances independence.
sometimes it is for power and control
What would you say is the purpose of education?
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't really see any "student-centered" comments on education.
Of who, and by who?
What would you say is the purpose of education?
Maybe that´s because you asked for "the purpose" of education, and now you are talking about "approaches to" education?I've probably let this percolate long enough. I'm aware of three different philosophical approaches to education. One is the "transfer of knowledge" approach that focuses on teaching a particular subject. The teacher is largely in a "knowledge for knowledge's sake" role, and leaves the reasons why the student is there to the student. The second is teaching to meet the needs of society, and the third is teaching to help the student discover what they need.
Most of the comments here centered on knowledge transfer with a few comments about society. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't really see any "student-centered" comments on education.
That's an anecdotal answer ... and both your examples are physicists - even from within the narrow cosmological evirons of physics. I'm sure examples of the opposite could be given.
And this is just semantics. You can call it indoctrination just as easily as those doing the indoctrinating can call it education.
I get your point, and don't disagree. I'm just not convinced education is focused solely on the independence you speak of.
How do you determine, when education involves indocrination?
When opinion is interjected and (certain lines of) questioning and critical thinking are no longer allowed.
Agree. When opinions are discussed it should be made clear. Same applies to making it clear when well established facts are discussed.
Also if opinions are noted, a good teacher will allow the opinion to generate open discussion on the issue.
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