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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 77109275" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>The problem with the (for lack of a better term) "fad diets" (although plant based eating has been around long enough that it's not a recent fad like some of the others, and I think data shows that there are some definite advantages to it) is that they'll all have fairly good results in the short term if the person is starting from a really bad place, and when people see some short term results with something, they tend to think of it as "this must be the perfect diet, look how quickly I dropped 40 pounds!"</p><p></p><p>If a person is 350+ lbs, and was eating pizza & fast food 4 nights a week, and was washing down every meal with 30oz of Pepsi...</p><p></p><p>They could do a vegan, vegetarian, keto, paleo, Atkins, Mediterranean, Intermittent Fasting, Carnivore, or 'South Beach' diet, and sticking to any of them for 3-4 months is going to lead to some weight loss and the person feeling better...because in comparison to what they were eating, they'll be taking in fewer calories and/or less processed junk.</p><p></p><p>Much like if a person was smoking 2 packs a day and drinking 6 beers a day...if they switched to a half pack and 2 beers, they're likely going to cough less, lose some weight, sleep better, have more energy, etc...than they did before. However, that wouldn't necessarily be evidence that "half pack + 2 beers" is a good long term strategy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>From a purely biological sense, we're pretty close to chimps...we're closer to chimps, than chimps are to gorillas. If you look a what chimps eat in nature...it's an omnivorous diet of about a 95:5 ratio of plants:animal-foods. Our small intestine is a little longer and our large intestine is a little shorter (which means we'd be a little better geared for fats and proteins, they'd be little better geared for plant/plant roughage. So my hunch is that if stuck to whole foods, and kept the plant:animal food ration to about a 80:20, we'd probably be in pretty good shape.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 77109275, member: 123415"] The problem with the (for lack of a better term) "fad diets" (although plant based eating has been around long enough that it's not a recent fad like some of the others, and I think data shows that there are some definite advantages to it) is that they'll all have fairly good results in the short term if the person is starting from a really bad place, and when people see some short term results with something, they tend to think of it as "this must be the perfect diet, look how quickly I dropped 40 pounds!" If a person is 350+ lbs, and was eating pizza & fast food 4 nights a week, and was washing down every meal with 30oz of Pepsi... They could do a vegan, vegetarian, keto, paleo, Atkins, Mediterranean, Intermittent Fasting, Carnivore, or 'South Beach' diet, and sticking to any of them for 3-4 months is going to lead to some weight loss and the person feeling better...because in comparison to what they were eating, they'll be taking in fewer calories and/or less processed junk. Much like if a person was smoking 2 packs a day and drinking 6 beers a day...if they switched to a half pack and 2 beers, they're likely going to cough less, lose some weight, sleep better, have more energy, etc...than they did before. However, that wouldn't necessarily be evidence that "half pack + 2 beers" is a good long term strategy. From a purely biological sense, we're pretty close to chimps...we're closer to chimps, than chimps are to gorillas. If you look a what chimps eat in nature...it's an omnivorous diet of about a 95:5 ratio of plants:animal-foods. Our small intestine is a little longer and our large intestine is a little shorter (which means we'd be a little better geared for fats and proteins, they'd be little better geared for plant/plant roughage. So my hunch is that if stuck to whole foods, and kept the plant:animal food ration to about a 80:20, we'd probably be in pretty good shape. [/QUOTE]
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