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Would you agree that all drivers are potentially drunk drivers...and should be treated as such??
Or do you think that might actually be worse for your life in the long run than just looking for that one driver who's swerving all over the road?
Funny. You used an analogy he used.
So did the Nazis.
...even though you *just* told men what their lives are like? Are you even listening to yourself?
If you're so certain that only experience makes right, could you take also as seriously my male-experience about that using rhetoric like "all men are potential rapists" tunes peoples attitudes to assume default male guilt?
If a person - man or woman - claims that another person - man or woman - has sexually assaulted them, shouldn't we assume that the person who claims they were assaulted is telling the truth?
If you don't like the implied gender roles with men being the rapist and women being the victim of rape, then perhaps you need a good long hard look at the statistics.
https://thehathorlegacy.com/rape-statistics/
1 in 10 rape victims are men. (Rathus, Nevid and Fichner-Rathus, 568) (which means that 90% of victims are women)
93.7 percent of male rape perpetrators are male
So it can't be denied that most rapists are men, and most victims are women.
Oh, and "An American woman has a 25 to 26 percent chance of being raped in her lifetime (1 in 4). (Greenberg, Bruess and Haffner, 573; Horowitz, 413; Lips, 233)." Tell me, what is the chance that a man will be raped? According to the Wikipedia article, it is a 1 in 71 chance. So the chance is about 1 in 70 for men, and about 1 in 4 for women.
By that logic being a terrorist is a role for Muslims, being a thief is a role for black people etc.If a person - man or woman - claims that another person - man or woman - has sexually assaulted them, shouldn't we assume that the person who claims they were assaulted is telling the truth?
If you don't like the implied gender roles with men being the rapist and women being the victim of rape, then perhaps you need a good long hard look at the statistics.
https://thehathorlegacy.com/rape-statistics/
1 in 10 rape victims are men. (Rathus, Nevid and Fichner-Rathus, 568) (which means that 90% of victims are women)
93.7 percent of male rape perpetrators are male
So it can't be denied that most rapists are men, and most victims are women.
Oh, and "An American woman has a 25 to 26 percent chance of being raped in her lifetime (1 in 4). (Greenberg, Bruess and Haffner, 573; Horowitz, 413; Lips, 233)." Tell me, what is the chance that a man will be raped? According to the Wikipedia article, it is a 1 in 71 chance. So the chance is about 1 in 70 for men, and about 1 in 4 for women.
I'm sorry, I thought it was common knowledge that men don't what it's like to live as a woman.
But if it upsets you to have a woman tell you that you don't know what it's like to live as a woman, maybe I should...
Nah, not going to apologise for it.
Would you prefer I use a different analogy? Would that make you feel better?
And amazingly, there are anti-radicalisation programmes in Muslim communities. There are attempts to work with black communities to improve educational outcomes etc. and lower the tendency to turn to crime.
But talk about how to prevent rape, and suddenly that's unacceptable. Apparently the logic is that women should just put up with it, because, you know, men might be hurt if we as a society actually try to do something?
Or if that's not the logic, then what are you proposing to actually lower the rape rate?
And amazingly, there are anti-radicalisation programmes in Muslim communities. There are attempts to work with black communities to improve educational outcomes etc. and lower the tendency to turn to crime.
But talk about how to prevent rape, and suddenly that's unacceptable. Apparently the logic is that women should just put up with it, because, you know, men might be hurt if we as a society actually try to do something?
Or if that's not the logic, then what are you proposing to actually lower the rape rate?
Tell me, what is the chance that a man will be raped? According to the Wikipedia article, it is a 1 in 71 chance. So the chance is about 1 in 70 for men, and about 1 in 4 for women.
None of those programs presumes a natural propensity in Muslims to be radical or blacks to be criminal. Rather, they presume exactly the opposite: That it's nurture, not nature, that must be corrected.
But talk about how to prevent rape, and suddenly that's unacceptable.
None of those programs presumes a natural propensity in Muslims to be radical or blacks to be criminal. Rather, they presume exactly the opposite: That it's nurture, not nature, that must be corrected.
None of those programs presumes a natural propensity in Muslims to be radical or blacks to be criminal. Rather, they presume exactly the opposite: That it's nurture, not nature, that must be corrected.
Your proposal is that rape is natural to men and the only way to lower the rate is to treat all men all the time as though they were ravaging animals.
That is literally a lie. At least anywhere in the western world.
A lot of measures have been taken during last century to recognize rape problem, to educate people, to campaign against it and most importantly, recognize variety of sexual offenses in legislation. Like for example, the introduction of the concept of marital rape which is fairly new one.
No; my proposal is the exact opposite. My proposal is that our culture allows and propagates the attitudes which lead to men becoming rapists, and that those can be addressed.
But, when that has been done successfully, as in the "Don't be that guy" campaign, suddenly I'm told that's bigoted!
And yet, as I just said, when I gave an example of a successful campaign, instead of saying, "Gee, that's great, how can we do more of that?" In this very thread, it's being met with cries of "Bigot!"
The mind boggles.
And yet, as I just said, when I gave an example of a successful campaign, instead of saying, "Gee, that's great, how can we do more of that?" In this very thread, it's being met with cries of "Bigot!"
And there you are singling men and only men out again.
Women rape too.
It is bigoted! What sort of reaction do you think a "Hey black people, don't steal cars mmkay" poster would get?
Yes, we should just gladly go along with men and only men being singled out for education about how not to rape. Let's become complicit in prejudice against ourselves. In a society where we regularly ignore the fact that women rape. Genius.
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