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I've read some of those threads. Your opinion of a good answer differs from my own.
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You've posted exactly the same thing many times before, and received good answers (which you ignored).
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If God loves us and can do anything, then are all these rapes of children we hear about merely stories made up by the news media?Dear talquin. God is all-powerful and God loves us, God wants our love freely given, and no forcing, whatsoever. In Luke 10: 25-28: Jesus is asked:
" Master, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" Jesus answered: " What is written in the Law? Love God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind and: love thy neighbour as thyself." Jesus also points out to us:
" on these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets, DO THIS AND YOU SHALL LIVE." All we say and all we do, all we advice or stand for,
MUST BE FROM LOVE AND COMPASSION. God is Love and God wants loving sons and daughters.
The Bible tells us: " Repent and be Born Again." We must give up all selfish wishes and wants, and start Loving God with all our beings, and loving our neighbour as we love ourselves. The Holy Spirit will help and guide us, and Jesus our Saviour will lead us all the way, JESUS IS THE WAY.
Let us treat all we know and all we meet, all friends and not friends, let us treat them as we would love to be treated. It may not be easy to start, but God wants it from us, and love is catching, and people will treat us as we treat people. God will see our loving and caring, and God will approve and bless us. Let us also remember: LOVE COVERS A MULTITUDE OF SINS, and evils. I say this with love, talquin. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.
I've read the entire Bible. It doesn't adequately address the problem of evil...............
"However, if he is all-powerful, he can accomplish any greater good without any kinds of the aforementioned items."
Mmm. That makes me think you would never be satisfied with the Bible's answer. Even though it does make a lot of sense.
Goodness = GoodnessIn other words, if one can bring about goodness without tragedy, it is better than bringing about goodness with tragedy.
How would you know that? Is suffering not a consquence of life and is it not better to have been born than to have never been born?
Quoting the Bible isn't going to reconcile the Problem of Evil.I'm going to put into bold the parts I would like to be focused on when searching scripture for the answer to this.
Why is the world and nature cursed? Why do we have natural disasters?
Genesis 6:13 And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth."
Genesis 3:17-19 Then to Adam He said, "Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying 'You shall not eat of it': Cursed is the ground for your sake; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life. 18 Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, and you shall eat the herb of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for dust you are, And to dust you shall return."
By His grace we can become saved!
Psalm 30:3 O Lord, You brought my soul up from the grave; You have kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.
Why genocide, rape, holocaust, wars?
Genesis 6:5-6 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Sins committed by humans are NOT Gods doing but the doing of the man in whom the sin resides. SIN is responsible. SIN is the answer to this question.
That article is one of the best examples of a straw man argument I've ever seen.
If God exists, I would like to see sufficient evidence of his existence. But all available evidence points to the truth being that he doesn't exist.So, on this thread you have asked a few questions.
1/ If God is all-loving, then he would want to prevent these things.
2/ If God is all-powerful, then he would be capable of preventing these things.
and 3/ You are looking for proof of His existence.
Upon asking for specifics, Christians usually admit that God is capable of doing things like re-routing a typhoon, stopping a rapist from raping a child, preventing an earthquake from occurring, keeping a murderer from going on a murder spree.For 1 and 2. Yes, God wants to prevent these things and He could, in one sense and can't in another. He is capable but cannot due to the fact that this is not the way He works.
Does man cause typhoons, earthquakes, diseases of children, tsunamis, etc.?All the troubles in the world stem from sin. Man causes his own problems. Greed, hate, selfishness, self love, lust for power and the belief that man is in control.
That has nothing to do with the problem of evil.God made us with free will. Not even the purest human heart can live without causing pain and suffering to themselves or someone else.
That also has nothing to do with the problem of evil.God has a plan to stop all of this. It started with Christ on the cross. You accept this free gift of salvation. In the end, when time disappears and all the years of this age are gone, the men and women who chose the right path will live for eternity without pain, suffering or any issues of this evil driven world.
How does free will determine that earthquakes and hurricanes will occur?Until then, we are in this world but not of this world. Man, it's civilization and it's free will, will determine what events take place.
That isn't proof of anything. I think you can do better than that.As for proof, it is by faith that we are saved. We cannot earn salvation. If you don't have a heart with an attitude of remorse you will never be able to see the proof. Proof comes after the attitude change.
How do you know what God wants?All these people with the attitude that "these are dumb rules", or "that is wrong" "that's not the way it should be" "I want proof first"... they just don't get it. They are playing by their rules, the rules that man would have.
God wants the kind, humble, unconditional heart. Not the "ok, now I see the money, I'll take the job" sorta deal.
That sounds like a straw man argument to me. Perhaps you could do a better job of addressing my OP.Once you can get to the point where you know you are lacking, you are a sinner, you need Christ, you can't do it alone and you have no right to demand anything different.... until then you will be blind to the truth, the proof, the glorious revelation of the truest love in the universe.
Once you see this, you will wonder how anyone could not.
While the answers were primarily good, none of them adequately addressed the problem of evil.You've posted exactly the same thing many times before, and received good answers (which you ignored).
If God is all-loving
I've read the entire Bible. It doesn't adequately address the problem of evil.
Quoting the Bible isn't going to reconcile the Problem of Evil.
Quoting the Bible gives Gods answer for evil. You want an answer from the Christian standpoint than quoting the bible is exactly what is needed because the bible is what gives Christians the answer.
Because your ideas and my ideas of good differ, does not mean you are correct in your assumption.
Thing is, certain people think that they deserve more, nothing is ever "good enough" for them. You want a "good enough" answer, dont have your mind already made up that you will disagree with anything a Christian says, maybe at that point answers will start making sense to you.
The problem of evil is in response to claims that God loves everyone. This is often phrased as "all-loving". Whether or not he loves sin isn't necessary to show that the problem of evil means that a god who loves everyone and can do anything doesn't exist.Does God love sin?
I'm looking for your reconciliation of the Problem of Evil. Not God's reconciliation.Quoting the Bible gives Gods answer for evil. You want an answer from the Christian standpoint than quoting the bible is exactly what is needed because the bible is what gives Christians the answer.
Examples of reconciliations to the problem of evil would be:It doesn't address the issue or when it does it is not a good enough answer for you? Can't have it both ways.
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