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The doctrine of papal infallibility is complicated, and has more to do with the infallibility of the Holy Spirit guiding the pope in specific matters of Church dogma (behold the Comforter will guide you in all truth), rather than the intellectual works, and political maneuverings of any individual pope.
Well then, wouldn't that apply to all believers as well? The Holy Spirit guides us and He is infallible, but no believer considers themselves infallible. So why should the pope?
When do you know something he states is infalliabel or whethere it's not? Popes in the past have made several mistakes in the past. And where in the scriptures does it say that the pope has apostleship?because the pope is an apostle and we are not. We do not have the authority Christ gave him through succession of the apostles. If we were all lead infallibily by the Holy Spirit, we wouldn't need a bible. The apostles wouldn't have needed to guide the early Christians.
The pope isn't infallible. Just like the apostles, when it comes to matters of fatih and doctrine, he can declare something as infallible, as it came from the Holy Spirit.
He is by no means infallible as a person.
When do you know something he states is infalliabel or whethere it's not? Popes in the past have made several mistakes in the past. And where in the scriptures does it say that the pope has apostleship?
Again, because apostolic succession was a selection from God, there is on evidence that the Pope was selected by Him nor that that roman catholic doctrine pf "ex cathedra" is correct since it's not scriptural.because he is the successor of Peter the apostle. We know there are successors, even from the bible, which mentions Matthias (Acts 1:26).
Popes making a mistake is a sin. When the Pope speaks "Ex-Cathedra" (from the chair [of Peter]) it is an inspired statement, so it is infallible.
Again, because apostolic succession was a selection from God, there is on evidence that the Pope was selected by Him nor that that roman catholic doctrine pf "ex cathedra" is correct since it's not scriptural.
There is also no evidence that apostolic succession is still occuring. It might just occured in the first church, and no transfered
now since we all have the scriptures.
The pope has also not shown any of the signs of an apostle such as miracles or any indication that he is sent from God.
Saying "I'm sorry" and "I am wrong" are two different things. He has only apologized if people were offended, not that he was wrong in the words he spoke.I heard a point brought up in a conversation I had that I completely looked over...
Just out of curiosity, how do Catholic's continue to say that the pope is infallible if he apologizes? An infallible person is never wrong, so why did he apologize? Not meant as an attack, just wondering.
I heard a point brought up in a conversation I had that I completely looked over...
Just out of curiosity, how do Catholic's continue to say that the pope is infallible if he apologizes? An infallible person is never wrong, so why did he apologize? Not meant as an attack, just wondering.
For a teaching to be ex cathedra infallible, it must meet the following criteria:
1. The pope must indicate that he is teaching from the chair (Chair of St. Peter). That is he must be exercising his office as pastor of all Christians by virtue of his supreme authority that was granted to St. Peter by Jesus.
2. The teaching must be about faith and morals.
3. The pope must define a doctrine to be held by all Catholics.
I heard a point brought up in a conversation I had that I completely looked over...
Just out of curiosity, how do Catholic's continue to say that the pope is infallible if he apologizes? An infallible person is never wrong, so why did he apologize? Not meant as an attack, just wondering.
because the pope is an apostle
I guess that would depend on what your deminition of an apostle is........
I guess that would depend on what your deminition of an apostle is........
So then, Paul is not an apostle, because he is not one of the twelve.Someone who has received the authority Christ gave the original twelve.
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