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I have a masters in earth science which includes meteorology, oceanography, geology, & astronomy.
The Himalayas have a lot to do with orienting jet streams.
A gaseous compound does not weather make.
The sun, at its mid-age, is at its highest peak of intensity.
I have a masters in earth science which includes meteorology, oceanography, geology, & astronomy.
The sun is the source of our climate & lo & behold we have an atmosphere & are just the right distance from the sun.
We have a differentiated layer geoid. We have these things called tectonic plates (land & ocean) that do slowly move around the globe over time. Past records show that the geography looked much different. The masses move by magma convection beneath in the mantle-it's whole cake geology. Faultlines stitch together the plates. The geometry of these masses & seas in turn set up our ocean currents, our wind belts, & our semi-permanent pressure cells. We have an axis with a tilt that produces 4 seasons.
It is the differentiation in the pressure gradients that set up cyclones & anticyclones which rotate around the globe. They in turn are affected by mountain ranges, beaches, valleys, forests, open deserts, tundra. That is what drives weather. Carbon dioxide is a gas exhaled by living things, including plants at night (inhaled by them in daytime).
We are still coming out of the Ice Age because not every glacier has disappeared. The sun's energy varies with sunspots & power output. The distinct jet streams often distribute themselves sometimes at higher latitudes, sometimes lower.
Sunlight that we receive at surface level is re-radiated back to space at night. It is the re-radiation that creates surface warmth during summer (infrared).
The politicians are trying to make an issue of something they cannot control. Man being arrogant (go back to the Galileo story) thinks it can.
Now co2 can contribute to a greenhouse effect locally (visit a greenhouse in summer) but the little gas put out on the globe cannot change the whole picture.
The biggest sink for CO2 is the ocean & lakes, followed by forests. So why all the fuss? Simple. The Democrats want this issue so they find another way to drive a tax into the economy. They want to punish people either at the gas pump, or those with electric heat, or AC. This gives them more money to spend. Imagine that-our own govt wants to punish people. I.E. the govt does not want you to use your AC when its 90+. They want you to suffer all to save planet earth. Ditto in the winter. They want $7 a gallon gas. It's easy for Leo & George to stick their nose in it but do you think it's gonna stop them from using their private jet or Ferrari.
The local heat effect in a metropolis is known as a heat island. All the emissions from vehicles, utilities, businesses, restaurants, hospitals, collect in one place & they are blocked in by tall buildings, things that absorb heat like concrete, steel, & asphalt. Of course when you settle more people here-the more the effect on the grid. What would help is maybe more city trees.
All energy actions lead to entropy. What this means is energy is never 100% efficient. It goes off to waste--heat waste.
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant; it's an emission which in turn is used by algae, fungi, plants, crops, trees. This is how we make our food.
Our troposphere is 78% nitrogen 20% oxygen, & the balance a small % of co2, argon, sulfur compounds, maybe some xenon, helium, & hydrogen. The reason we have nitrogen as the highest % is two-fold: if we had 100% oxygen, this gas being highly volatile-we would burn up. The nitrogen is there in a sense to buffer us.
The nitrogen accrual came earth's early years when bacteria began to fix nitrogen. Now certainly we'd all like a clean earth but you won't get to 100%.
CO2 does not create low pressure system such as a tornado; it does not create an Alberta clipper; it does not make a dust storm or cirrus clouds.
The sun is roughly 50% thru it's life cycle as a not so big star.
As it ages, it will begin going thru consecutive shells of hydrogen & helium burning. This will eventually increase its diameter. It will become a red giant & albeit cool off (red is cool), it will absorb the entire solar system & we will all perish.
At some point it will fuse thru the next elements in the periodic table until it gets to iron. The cost of burning iron is where it ends-it's too great a cost-the sun will blow up as a nova & become a tinier white hot dwarf.
That is the end. Stardust we are born & to stardust we return.
Any peer-reviewed publications in the field of AGW, or are you just an interested amateur like the rest of the posters in this thread?I have a degree in math from Rutgers U., a masters in math from Central CT SU, & a masters in earth science, minor geology from Central CT SU.
Given that this is my educational field I thought I'd chime in. Ok so maybe the average temp has gone up 1 degree. But this is how climate works. The sun is the source of our climate & lo & behold we have an atmosphere & are just the right distance from the sun. We have a differentiated layer geoid. We have these things called tectonic plates (land & ocean) that do slowly move around the globe over time. Past records show that the geography looked much different. The masses move by magma convection beneath in the mantle-it's whole cake geology. Faultlines stitch together the plates. The geometry of these masses & seas in turn set up our ocean currents, our wind belts, & our semi-permanent pressure cells. We have an axis with a tilt that produces 4 seasons. It is the differentiation in the pressure gradients that set up cyclones & anticyclones which rotate around the globe. They in turn are affected by mountain ranges, beaches, valleys, forests, open deserts, tundra. That is what drives weather. Carbon dioxide is a gas exhaled by living things, including plants at night (inhaled by them in daytime). We are still coming out of the Ice Age because not every glacier has disappeared. The sun's energy varies with sunspots & power output. The distinct jet streams often distribute themselves sometimes at higher latitudes, sometimes lower. Sunlight that we receive at surface level is re-radiated back to space at night. It is the re-radiation that creates surface warmth during summer (infrared). The politicians are trying to make an issue of something they cannot control. Man being arrogant (go back to the Galileo story) thinks it can. Now co2 can contribute to a greenhouse effect locally (visit a greenhouse in summer) but the little gas put out on the globe cannot change the whole picture. The biggest sink for CO2 is the ocean & lakes, followed by forests. So why all the fuss? Simple. The Democrats want this issue so they find another way to drive a tax into the economy. They want to punish people either at the gas pump, or those with electric heat, or AC. This gives them more money to spend. Imagine that-our own govt wants to punish people. I.E. the govt does not want you to use your AC when its 90+. They want you to suffer all to save planet earth. Ditto in the winter. They want $7 a gallon gas. It's easy for Leo & George to stick their nose in it but do you think it's gonna stop them from using their private jet or Ferrari. The local heat effect in a metropolis is known as a heat island. All the emissions from vehicles, utilities, businesses, restaurants, hospitals, collect in one place & they are blocked in by tall buildings, things that absorb heat like concrete, steel, & asphalt. Of course when you settle more people here-the more the effect on the grid. What would help is maybe more city trees. All energy actions lead to entropy. What this means is energy is never 100% efficient. It goes off to waste--heat waste. Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant; it's an emission which in turn is used by algae, fungi, plants, crops, trees. This is how we make our food. Our troposphere is 78% nitrogen 20% oxygen, & the balance a small % of co2, argon, sulfur compounds, maybe some xenon, helium, & hydrogen. The reason we have nitrogen as the highest % is two-fold: if we had 100% oxygen, this gas being highly volatile-we would burn up. The nitrogen is there in a sense to buffer us. The nitrogen accrual came earth's early years when bacteria began to fix nitrogen. Now certainly we'd all like a clean earth but you won't get to 100%. CO2 does not create low pressure system such as a tornado; it does not create an Alberta clipper; it does not make a dust storm or cirrus clouds. The sun is roughly 50% thru it's life cycle as a not so big star. As it ages, it will begin going thru consecutive shells of hydrogen & helium burning. This will eventually increase its diameter. It will become a red giant & albeit cool off (red is cool), it will absorb the entire solar system & we will all perish. At some point it will fuse thru the next elements in the periodic table until it gets to iron. The cost of burning iron is where it ends-it's too great a cost-the sun will blow up as a nova & become a tinier white hot dwarf. That is the end. Stardust we are born & to stardust we return.
Glad to have you on board. It's nice to have someone here with some knowledge other than those parroting the climate catastrophic man made nonsense.Given that this is my educational field I thought I'd chime in. Ok so maybe the average temp has gone up 1 degree. But this is how climate works. The sun is the source of our climate & lo & behold we have an atmosphere & are just the right distance from the sun. We have a differentiated layer geoid. We have these things called tectonic plates (land & ocean) that do slowly move around the globe over time. Past records show that the geography looked much different. The masses move by magma convection beneath in the mantle-it's whole cake geology. Faultlines stitch together the plates. The geometry of these masses & seas in turn set up our ocean currents, our wind belts, & our semi-permanent pressure cells. We have an axis with a tilt that produces 4 seasons. It is the differentiation in the pressure gradients that set up cyclones & anticyclones which rotate around the globe. They in turn are affected by mountain ranges, beaches, valleys, forests, open deserts, tundra. That is what drives weather. Carbon dioxide is a gas exhaled by living things, including plants at night (inhaled by them in daytime). We are still coming out of the Ice Age because not every glacier has disappeared. The sun's energy varies with sunspots & power output. The distinct jet streams often distribute themselves sometimes at higher latitudes, sometimes lower. Sunlight that we receive at surface level is re-radiated back to space at night. It is the re-radiation that creates surface warmth during summer (infrared). The politicians are trying to make an issue of something they cannot control. Man being arrogant (go back to the Galileo story) thinks it can. Now co2 can contribute to a greenhouse effect locally (visit a greenhouse in summer) but the little gas put out on the globe cannot change the whole picture. The biggest sink for CO2 is the ocean & lakes, followed by forests. So why all the fuss? Simple. The Democrats want this issue so they find another way to drive a tax into the economy. They want to punish people either at the gas pump, or those with electric heat, or AC. This gives them more money to spend. Imagine that-our own govt wants to punish people. I.E. the govt does not want you to use your AC when its 90+. They want you to suffer all to save planet earth. Ditto in the winter. They want $7 a gallon gas. It's easy for Leo & George to stick their nose in it but do you think it's gonna stop them from using their private jet or Ferrari. The local heat effect in a metropolis is known as a heat island. All the emissions from vehicles, utilities, businesses, restaurants, hospitals, collect in one place & they are blocked in by tall buildings, things that absorb heat like concrete, steel, & asphalt. Of course when you settle more people here-the more the effect on the grid. What would help is maybe more city trees. All energy actions lead to entropy. What this means is energy is never 100% efficient. It goes off to waste--heat waste. Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant; it's an emission which in turn is used by algae, fungi, plants, crops, trees. This is how we make our food. Our troposphere is 78% nitrogen 20% oxygen, & the balance a small % of co2, argon, sulfur compounds, maybe some xenon, helium, & hydrogen. The reason we have nitrogen as the highest % is two-fold: if we had 100% oxygen, this gas being highly volatile-we would burn up. The nitrogen is there in a sense to buffer us. The nitrogen accrual came earth's early years when bacteria began to fix nitrogen. Now certainly we'd all like a clean earth but you won't get to 100%. CO2 does not create low pressure system such as a tornado; it does not create an Alberta clipper; it does not make a dust storm or cirrus clouds. The sun is roughly 50% thru it's life cycle as a not so big star. As it ages, it will begin going thru consecutive shells of hydrogen & helium burning. This will eventually increase its diameter. It will become a red giant & albeit cool off (red is cool), it will absorb the entire solar system & we will all perish. At some point it will fuse thru the next elements in the periodic table until it gets to iron. The cost of burning iron is where it ends-it's too great a cost-the sun will blow up as a nova & become a tinier white hot dwarf. That is the end. Stardust we are born & to stardust we return.
Oh the irony.Glad to have you on board. It's nice to have someone here with some knowledge other than those parroting the climate catastrophic man made nonsense.
Given that this is my educational field I thought I'd chime in
. Ok so maybe the average temp has gone up 1 degree. But this is how climate works.
Carbon dioxide is a gas exhaled by living things, including plants at night (inhaled by them in daytime).
We are still coming out of the Ice Age
because not every glacier has disappeared.
The politicians are trying to make an issue of something they cannot control.
Now co2 can contribute to a greenhouse effect locally (visit a greenhouse in summer)
but the little gas put out on the globe cannot change the whole picture.
The biggest sink for CO2 is the ocean & lakes
Glad to have you on board. It's nice to have someone here with some knowledge other than those parroting the climate catastrophic man made nonsense.
I have a degree in math from Rutgers U., a masters in math from Central CT SU, & a masters in earth science, minor geology from Central CT SU.
I have a degree in math from Rutgers U., a masters in math from Central CT SU, & a masters in earth science, minor geology from Central CT SU.
I'll take that one step further. No one can reasonably argue that it's not happening at all. The only debate that anyone who knows what they're talking about is having is to what degree it's occurring, how quickly it's accelerating, etc. So there's really no reason not to do something about it.If it's not real and we do something about it...nothing bad happens.
Interesting. If I may ask, how long ago did you receive your masters in Earth Science from Central CT State? I ask, because they no longer offer that (or any kind of non-biological science) as a Masters program. It's now only offered at the undergraduate level.
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I remember what the air and water in major cities and industrial areas were like in the late 60s and early 70s.
Whether you agree with Global Warming or not, that history alone should be reason enough to pursue clean energy as opposed to deregulation and promoting more use of fossil fuels. IMHO, YMMV.
I don't think anyone want dirty air or water. I know I don't. Pursuing clean energy is not a problem for me. But what we need is a smooth transition not a hammer where you cause such destruction in the fossil fuels that it drives up the cost and causes people hardship. There is another way. Develope a reasonable clean energy that is affordable and people will move to it.
I'd have no problem having a solar house. But the cost is prohibitive.
I don't think anyone want dirty air or water. I know I don't. Pursuing clean energy is not a problem for me. But what we need is a smooth transition not a hammer where you cause such destruction in the fossil fuels that it drives up the cost and causes people hardship. There is another way. Develope a reasonable clean energy that is affordable and people will move to it.
I'd have no problem having a solar house. But the cost is prohibitive.
Well, there is the Post-Baccalaureate Program:Interesting. If I may ask, how long ago did you receive your masters in Earth Science from Central CT State? I ask, because they no longer offer that (or any kind of non-biological science) as a Masters program. It's now only offered at the undergraduate level.
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Degree Programs
I wasnt just talking about fossil fuels. I was talking about energy in general. Remember what Obama said? Energy prices would necessarily skyrocket.Who's driving up the cost of fossil fuels? Oil prices are fairly low, and coal is being undercut by natural gas.
Additionally, fossil fuels cause pollution, the costs of which are (typically) not accounted for in the price of the fuel. It is wholly appropriate, and in fact necessary for the market to function efficiently, for the government to tack on some kind of surcharge to a product to ensure that its sell price accounts for all of its costs.
I wasnt just talking about fossil fuels. I was talking about energy in general. Remember what Obama said? Energy prices would necessarily skyrocket.
In order to make people get into more clean energy they have to do one of two things. To make clean energy competitive they have to drive up the cost of other energy or drive down the cost of clean energy. And we see from Obama's statement what they generally prefer to do.
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