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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Quayle" data-source="post: 76111411" data-attributes="member: 410020"><p>If presuppositions of science are not provable, then why say that Darwinian Evolution is established fact, and that Quantum Mechanics is based on what we already KNOW? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Scrutinize all you want. So far, First Cause is the only reasonable explanation for existence. EVERYTHING else I have heard so far, is illogical —as in, circular reasoning, begging the question, moving the goalposts, etc etc. To me, at least, it makes more sense that First Cause should exist, than even that I exist. </p><p></p><p>It seems you are attributing your superior notions, concerning my motivations, with more substance than they deserve. It would make more sense to say that I am using confirmation bias, than to say that I am employing the cosmological argument SOLELY to buttress my theology. How would you know of my reasons? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Without going back and re-reading all I have said to you on this thread, I don't recall what I have or have not claimed, re 'evidence'. I'm guessing that I have said that logical argument can serve for evidence, as it is what science does all the time. But since you don't consider my logical sequences to be logical, then what's the point? You may even have tried to show me how they are illogical, but I don't consider your rebuttal logical, so what's the point? To arrogantly call it 'pretense', however, smacks of condescension and suggests weakness to your own argument. You certainly have not convinced me of anything, nor motivated me to whimper my way back out of your withering gaze. Baugh!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Quayle, post: 76111411, member: 410020"] If presuppositions of science are not provable, then why say that Darwinian Evolution is established fact, and that Quantum Mechanics is based on what we already KNOW? Scrutinize all you want. So far, First Cause is the only reasonable explanation for existence. EVERYTHING else I have heard so far, is illogical —as in, circular reasoning, begging the question, moving the goalposts, etc etc. To me, at least, it makes more sense that First Cause should exist, than even that I exist. It seems you are attributing your superior notions, concerning my motivations, with more substance than they deserve. It would make more sense to say that I am using confirmation bias, than to say that I am employing the cosmological argument SOLELY to buttress my theology. How would you know of my reasons? Without going back and re-reading all I have said to you on this thread, I don't recall what I have or have not claimed, re 'evidence'. I'm guessing that I have said that logical argument can serve for evidence, as it is what science does all the time. But since you don't consider my logical sequences to be logical, then what's the point? You may even have tried to show me how they are illogical, but I don't consider your rebuttal logical, so what's the point? To arrogantly call it 'pretense', however, smacks of condescension and suggests weakness to your own argument. You certainly have not convinced me of anything, nor motivated me to whimper my way back out of your withering gaze. Baugh! [/QUOTE]
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