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What do you think of the new Bible translation known as The Passion Translation (TPT)?
I haven't read it (and currently have no desire to), since it is associated with the New Apostolic Reformation movement. If you want to have an easy reading accurate Bible, I recommend the New Living Translation. See my comments on it here:What do you think of the new Bible translation known as The Passion Translation (TPT)?
It is connected to the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Is there anyone you like to read or listen to in the NAR?
the highlighted is something you surely came up with yourself. if it is, that's nonsense. and as for these offices being "lost" that's rubbish too. those ministry gifts have never disappeared in the first place. so why dont you just come out and say where you stand on the issue. sorry, but you posted all that stuff in the scope of what other peoples views are. and i couldn't distinguish what you think vs those other people. but if you think they're adding in words that the original texts dont say then post examples as evidence otherwise what you said it bunk itself.The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a title used to describe a movement which seeks to establish a fifth house within Christendom, distinct from Catholicism, Protestantism, Oriental Orthodoxy, and Eastern Orthodoxy. The movement is largely associated with the Pentecostal and the Charismatic movements and advocates the restoration of the lost offices of church governance, namely the offices of prophet and apostle.[1]
The title is originally from Peter Wagner.
Wagner has listed the differences between the NAR and traditional Protestantism as follows:[1]
Though few, if any, organizations publicly espouse connection to the NAR, there are several individuals often associated with this movement including:
- Apostolic governance – The Apostle Paul's assertion that Jesus appoints apostles within his church continues to this day.
- The office of the prophet – There is within the church a role and function for present-day prophets.
- Dominionism – "When Jesus came, He brought the kingdom of God and He expects His kingdom-minded people to take whatever action is needed to push back the long-standing kingdom of Satan and bring the peace and prosperity of His kingdom here on earth."[2]
- Theocracy – Not to be confused with theocratic government but rather the goal to have "kingdom-minded people" in all areas of society. There are seven areas identified specifically: religion, family, education, government, media, arts & entertainment, and business.[1]
- Extra-biblical revelation – There is available to all believers the ability to hear from God. "The one major rule governing any new revelation from God is that it cannot contradict what has already been written in the Bible. It may supplement it, however."
- Supernatural signs and wonders – Signs and wonders such as healing, demonic deliverance, and confirmed prophecies accompany the move of God.
- Relational structures – church governance has no formal structure but rather is by relational and voluntary alignment to apostles.
There a more popular names, but I don't know all of them.
- Lou Engle, founder of The Call[6]
- Bill Johnson, head pastor of Bethel Church "critics believe Bethel to be instrumental in leading some Christians to embrace tenets of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), a movement known for dominion theology and a belief in the continuing ministries of apostles and prophets alongside those of evangelists, pastors, and teachers. Bill Johnson is regularly listed as an NAR leader. He believes in the apostolic and prophetic ministries, but says the church does not have any official ties to the NAR."[7]
- Rick Joyner, founder of MorningStar Ministries -"there will likewise be a horde of false apostles released. Our team received two very specific dreams warning about false 'apostolic movements' that were built more on organization than relationship. The dreams indicated that these were trying to bring forth apostles that were really more like corporate CEOs, and the movement that they led had the potential to do great damage to the church. The enemy's intent with this false apostolic movement was to have the church develop a deep revulsion to anything that was called apostolic."[8]
- John P. Kelly, founder of John P. Kelly Ministries and Convening Apostle
- C. Peter Wagner, founder of Global Harvest Ministries[1]
Wagner considers 2001 the beginning of the second apostolic age, for the movement holds that the lost offices of prophet and apostle were restored in that year.
The Passion Translation (TPT) is the Bible made by the NAR. As Apostles, they can add to and change the Bible as they see fit because they are living apostles. The TPT is not merely a translation or paraphrase. They can write in verses that are not present in Greek or any other English Bible.
The gateway online TPT doesn't have Jn.22
you ask a lot, RB. But why dont you aim your examinations at yourself? why don't you post proof of your claims. is it because what you said is unfounded? i think so@Bortsss , what are you so upset about?
you ask a lot, RB. But why dont you aim your examinations at yourself? why don't you post proof of your claims. is it because what you said is unfounded? i think so
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