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The Passion Movie

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Hi!

I have not been very interested in seeing this film, but my neighbor left it for me to watch (slipped in with a few other videos I wanted to borrow-tricky! He had already been a little pushy with it!).

Non-christians: have any of you seen it? Is it worth watching? What did you think of it? I'm not into seeing a good man get tortured for hours, so I'm kind of reluctant. At the same time, I kind of want to see what the hype is about.

any opinions?

My mom went to see it and left the theater because she said it was sickeningly violent. (On the way out she was advised she was probably going to burn in hell)

Thanks!

Blessings!

Opalina
 

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I dunno if asking non-christians is the right opinion for this movie. Your prolly going to get "well its just a movie about some guy being killed over a 2 and a half hour or so time period." You should prolly read a gospel before to get the whole story so u will understand it more but i dunno. If if u have an open mind it can really touch anyone.:)

but thats just me a Christian. Ignore me if u wish but theres my thoughts
 
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I just finally saw the movie & have been wanting to talk about it. I was pretty anxious to see it because of all the hype. I watched it completely through and tried not to judge it prematurely. The best way I can decribe it is, Braveheart without the plot. I'm sorry but that movie was really pretty meaningless by any standards. I'm not saying this because I don't believe the story, I love the Last Samurai even though it's fiction. The movie is nothing but blood & gore. I would have respected it if they had at least shown what Jesus was supposedly trying to do or teach. However they chose to show him being tortured, and that alone. If anything I guess it might make you feel sorry for him, if it really happened. It gets to the point where you just want them to stop & let him die.

All it did for me is raise more questions. It was worth watching for curiosity value, but I can't believe it is as popular as it is. I sure hope the followers don't allow their kids to watch it, even though alot of it was meant to scare the believers. Oh well Mel Gipson made a killing, so I guess the mission was accomplished.
 
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Deus said:
I just finally saw the movie & have been wanting to talk about it. I was pretty anxious to see it because of all the hype. I watched it completely through and tried not to judge it prematurely. The best way I can decribe it is, Braveheart without the plot. I'm sorry but that movie was really pretty meaningless by any standards. I'm not saying this because I don't believe the story, I love the Last Samurai even though it's fiction. The movie is nothing but blood & gore. I would have respected it if they had at least shown what Jesus was supposedly trying to do or teach. However they chose to show him being tortured, and that alone. If anything I guess it might make you feel sorry for him, if it really happened. It gets to the point where you just want them to stop & let him die.

All it did for me is raise more questions. It was worth watching for curiosity value, but I can't believe it is as popular as it is. I sure hope the followers don't allow their kids to watch it, even though alot of it was meant to scare the believers. Oh well Mel Gipson made a killing, so I guess the mission was accomplished.
hello Deus ..
you know, i would expect this answer from you.
why ?
simply, because you didn't believe in salvation.
the Bible says:
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God -[1Corinthians 1:18]

i can't expect someone who doesn't believe in salvation to feel much connected to this movie.
i used to be the same, untill i accepted Jesus as my personal savior.
when i watched this movie, i didn't feel anger, i didn't feel hate, i didn't feel depressed .. i felt loved.

once you believe in what Jesus did for you on the cross, this movie would have a new dimention , a new meaning that you've never felt.
but as my friend
God_of_Mercy said:
but thats just me a Christian. Ignore me if u wish but theres my thoughts
peace and love :)
 
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Galilee said:
hello Deus ..
you know, i would expect this answer from you.
why ?
simply, because you didn't believe in salvation.
the Bible says:
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God -[1Corinthians 1:18]

i can't expect someone who doesn't believe in salvation to feel much connected to this movie.
i used to be the same, untill i accepted Jesus as my personal savior.
when i watched this movie, i didn't feel anger, i didn't feel hate, i didn't feel depressed .. i felt loved.

once you believe in what Jesus did for you on the cross, this movie would have a new dimention , a new meaning that you've never felt.
but as my friend
God_of_Mercy said:

peace and love :)
Galilee, I expect such a post from you as well.
Why? Because you believe in the mythology represented in this movie.

Back on topic, the question is: Is the movie any good?
I believe Pearl Harbor happened, but the movie still stinks. The Passion has no story line whatsoever.
Also if you feel love when you see someone being whipped and killed then you have some serious problems. I would hate the christian god if I actually believed in him. He'd be a merciless killer who enjoys provoking tragedy.
 
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ShadowAspect said:
Some Christians can be very persuasive in their arguments... don?t you think?
Oh yes! They were quite persuasive when they spit on me as I walked into a theater in 88 to see The Last Temptation of Christ" (which was awesome!)
 
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Galilee said:
hello Deus ..

i can't expect someone who doesn't believe in salvation to feel much connected to this movie.
i used to be the same, untill i accepted Jesus as my personal savior.
when i watched this movie, i didn't feel anger, i didn't feel hate, i didn't feel depressed .. i felt loved.

once you believe in what Jesus did for you on the cross, this movie would have a new dimention , a new meaning that you've never felt.
but as my friend
God_of_Mercy said:

peace and love :)
Well, not being a Christian, it's not going to have a personal meaning for me, outside of the sick reminder of mans inhumanity to another man. I can appreciate what it does mean to those of the Christian faith, and I do appreciate your input! :)

I guess I'm wondering if there is more story portrayed than the crucifixion that may be worth watching-historical interests, setting, ect. I know its in Aramaic, which I would be interested in hearing. It sounds like the whole focus is on the crucifixion, though. And I'm wondering as a non-christian, how I get in the mood to watch it!

Blessings!

Opalina
 
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Deus said:
I would hate the christian god if I actually believed in him. He'd be a merciless killer who enjoys provoking tragedy.
You feel this way because you don't understand (at least how Christians feel)

See the Passion shows the most love of anything because Jesus went through all that to BEAR our sins. It had to be done. God loved us so much that he sent his only son to do that for us. It all has to do with love. (Just tryin to explain that a little)
 
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you know, i would expect this answer from you.
why ?
simply, because you didn't believe in salvation.
You have to "believe in salvation" to say whether a movie's good or not????? I don't think so. Movies are good or bad not based on belief in salvation, but whether or not they stink on ice! For example, I'm not a Christian, but I think "Last Temptation" was a bad MOVIE. (I also don't think it does very well at explaining Christianity, but that's another issue...) I also liked both "Dogma" and "Chocolat," both highly Christian movies, because they were good movies!
 
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Deus said:
I just finally saw the movie & have been wanting to talk about it. I was pretty anxious to see it because of all the hype. I watched it completely through and tried not to judge it prematurely. The best way I can decribe it is, Braveheart without the plot. I'm sorry but that movie was really pretty meaningless by any standards. I'm not saying this because I don't believe the story, I love the Last Samurai even though it's fiction. The movie is nothing but blood & gore. I would have respected it if they had at least shown what Jesus was supposedly trying to do or teach. However they chose to show him being tortured, and that alone. If anything I guess it might make you feel sorry for him, if it really happened. It gets to the point where you just want them to stop & let him die.

All it did for me is raise more questions. It was worth watching for curiosity value, but I can't believe it is as popular as it is. I sure hope the followers don't allow their kids to watch it, even though alot of it was meant to scare the believers. Oh well Mel Gipson made a killing, so I guess the mission was accomplished.
I have heard that as well, about Jesus' teachings not being shown at all. I know a couple of Christians that didn't like the movie for that reason. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be disgusted and sad, as much as I would like to see it without prejudgement. If I see it.

Loved the Last Samurai, too!

Blessings!

Opalina
 
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Well, since non-Christians and Christians alike are posting their opinions on the film, I might post mine as well.

The Passion of the Christ a powerful film. It will certainly leave a mark on everyone who watches it. It is not only violent, but the violence is very intense and cruel. It is not only violent scenes though. We get some flashbacks from what Jesus's life with His Virgin Mother was like. There's also the other important passages: the praying in Getsemane, the trial, etc.
The fact that it was spoken in Latin and Aramaic was a nice touch as well. For the first time we're hearing Jesus speak in the big screen in a way similar to what He really spoke.
Many viewers think it incredibly tasteless to show so much violence; but it plays a purpose, as it did in reality: it was through His sacrifice on the cross that Jesus Christ showed mankind how much He loves us. God went through all that pain and all that humiliation for the reason of letting it be known to us that He is willing to forgive all. Were there only one human being on the planet, and he the most cruel and low sinner that can be thought, Jesus would have done the same.
Granted, it is a film that Christians will like a lot more than non-Christians.

However, not all is good with it. First, it is no artistic breakthrough; no aesthetic discoveries were made, and not much creativity was put in finding ways to film the scenes and tell the story: we get grade A Hollywood quality, but nothing else.
Secondly, it is a mostly romantic picture. That means it tries to move its audience by feelings: guilt, sorrow, suffering, anguish, rather than offer us anything to think of, anything that would insitigate the viewer's intellect.
 
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I know you were asking for non Christian input but I thought I would chime in anyway.

I really liked the movie in the way that it is a movie that I enjoy to watch, but because of the effect it has on me. Watching the Passion put into perspective why Peter denyed being a friend of Jesus, the ability of a crowd to be swept into a witch hunt and kill even if someone is innocent. But the most important part was how Jesus acted in response to his accusers. It is a great reminder of the pain He had to endure for my shortcomings.

As far as I can tell the movie is 100% biblicly accruate.

Whitestone

Oh, one more thought the ending was incredible, so up lifting.
 
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concerning the passion of christ as a non Christian i think it was avery good film and it revealed a few things that christians themselves should be more attentiive to about christianity.The fact that Jesus in there refers to Himself as the SON OF MAN and many more lessons could be learnt from the Movie i give it a thumbs up

Just as I would recommend non muslims to watch the Movie Mohamed the Messenger of god AKA the Message.A lot can be learnt through it.


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Deus said:
I just finally saw the movie & have been wanting to talk about it. I was pretty anxious to see it because of all the hype. I watched it completely through and tried not to judge it prematurely. The best way I can decribe it is, Braveheart without the plot. I'm sorry but that movie was really pretty meaningless by any standards. I'm not saying this because I don't believe the story, I love the Last Samurai even though it's fiction. The movie is nothing but blood & gore. I would have respected it if they had at least shown what Jesus was supposedly trying to do or teach. However they chose to show him being tortured, and that alone. If anything I guess it might make you feel sorry for him, if it really happened. It gets to the point where you just want them to stop & let him die.

All it did for me is raise more questions. It was worth watching for curiosity value, but I can't believe it is as popular as it is. I sure hope the followers don't allow their kids to watch it, even though alot of it was meant to scare the believers. Oh well Mel Gipson made a killing, so I guess the mission was accomplished.
Yes, the movie focused on the brutal death of God. That is why it is called the Passion. Can you not see the passion that God has for His creation that He would suffer such a thing to bring us home? I took my seven year old daughter to see it and it has touched off many good discussions of Jesus.
 
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i just wanted to make myself clear.
when i said that i expected that answer, i didn't say that this answer is good or bad !!
i respect everyone's openion.
i just said that i expected it.

and i didn't say i felt LOVE when i saw what they were doing to Jesus.
i said i felt LOVED.
there's a big difference.


peace and love :)
 
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CrownCaster said:
Yes, the movie focused on the brutal death of God. That is why it is called the Passion. Can you not see the passion that God has for His creation that He would suffer such a thing to bring us home? I took my seven year old daughter to see it and it has touched off many good discussions of Jesus.
No I can't see the passion. God did not suffer, he supposedly made a human suffer a horribe death for his own enjoyment. It was unecessary, but he did it anyway. Would you condemn your child to the same fate? Also, would you take your 7 year old to watch any other man suffer and die, or just Jesus? Personally, if I believed all that non-sense I wouldn't want my kid to know how cruel mankind's god is. Just my opinion.
 
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Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, so yes, God did suffer for us on the cross.

Once you put the film into its proper Christian/Jewish perspective then it becomes for understanding. Jesus the Messiah is God in the flesh who became the Passover Lamb for the remission of sins. He paid with his life for the final forgiveness of sins.
 
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