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The Party That Cried Wolf

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Anyone wondering why the Clinton email scandal isn't gaining traction?

Look to the Clinton Foundation scandal.

In the Clinton Foundation "scandal", we have bad intel running on repeat trying to slam a charitable foundation as a slush fund or "sold influence" based on virtually no supporting evidence.

The people who claim the foundation spends next to nothing on charity got their information from a brazenly dishonest NYPost article (or the dozens of right-wing blog articles that mirrored the exact same lies) which couldn't tell the difference between the charity's overhead and the charity's operating costs; the difference being that the latter includes the charitable work the foundation does in-house. There have been numerous articles debunking this including a very thorough one from FactCheck.org, but the myths keep coming on repeat by people who are convinced that the foundation only spends 5-10% of its funds on actual charity work. Because they can't tell the difference between overhead and operating costs.

Then there's the idea that she "sold influence", based on her meeting with a whopping 84 people who donated to the charity during the first half of her tenure as secretary of state. The hype for this was, again, dishonest - while the actual AP article smothered everything in caveats, few people seem to have read that, . It's notably lacking anything resembling a smoking gun, with the examples the AP chose to highlight this "quid pro quo" being phenomenally innocuous. The most you could tell from this is that running a major charity, or having your family run a major charity while you are in a position of political power opens you up to the appearance of impropriety, even without any actual hard evidence of impropriety.

These are both non-stories. There's no smoking gun, no hard evidence, and large amounts of it are just flat-out false.

Just like almost every other Clinton Scandal.

Almost every "scandal" brought up about the administration has carried the stench of dishonesty and half-measures. Of leaping to conclusions about the intention and effects. Of insinuation, not hard evidence or proof. Obviously, some worse than others, but when you have people still willing to repeat the insane conspiracy theory that Clinton was responsible for the death of Vince Foster, or the long-debunked crap claim that the Obama administration ordered soldiers to "stand down" from protecting people in Benghazi, it all sort of blends together into a mishmash of scandal that makes it very hard to distinguish the signal (real things we should care about) from the noise (stupid conspiracies and baseless allegations).

The republican party and right-wing news sources have, at this point, very much become the boy who cried wolf. The last X Clinton Scandals (and the list really does just go on and on and on) were partisan nonsense; why should we buy this one?
 

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I'm not wondering. It's because the mainstream media has for years given the Left a pass, and they're still at it.
Except that it is the mainstream media lead by the AP, that have driven the email, and Clintons charity funding stories. That is hardly a pass.
 
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Anyone wondering why the Clinton email scandal isn't gaining traction?

Look to the Clinton Foundation scandal.

In the Clinton Foundation "scandal", we have bad intel running on repeat trying to slam a charitable foundation as a slush fund or "sold influence" based on virtually no supporting evidence.

The people who claim the foundation spends next to nothing on charity got their information from a brazenly dishonest NYPost article (or the dozens of right-wing blog articles that mirrored the exact same lies) which couldn't tell the difference between the charity's overhead and the charity's operating costs; the difference being that the latter includes the charitable work the foundation does in-house. There have been numerous articles debunking this including a very thorough one from FactCheck.org, but the myths keep coming on repeat by people who are convinced that the foundation only spends 5-10% of its funds on actual charity work. Because they can't tell the difference between overhead and operating costs.

Then there's the idea that she "sold influence", based on her meeting with a whopping 84 people who donated to the charity during the first half of her tenure as secretary of state. The hype for this was, again, dishonest - while the actual AP article smothered everything in caveats, few people seem to have read that, . It's notably lacking anything resembling a smoking gun, with the examples the AP chose to highlight this "quid pro quo" being phenomenally innocuous. The most you could tell from this is that running a major charity, or having your family run a major charity while you are in a position of political power opens you up to the appearance of impropriety, even without any actual hard evidence of impropriety.

These are both non-stories. There's no smoking gun, no hard evidence, and large amounts of it are just flat-out false.

Just like almost every other Clinton Scandal.

Almost every "scandal" brought up about the administration has carried the stench of dishonesty and half-measures. Of leaping to conclusions about the intention and effects. Of insinuation, not hard evidence or proof. Obviously, some worse than others, but when you have people still willing to repeat the insane conspiracy theory that Clinton was responsible for the death of Vince Foster, or the long-debunked crap claim that the Obama administration ordered soldiers to "stand down" from protecting people in Benghazi, it all sort of blends together into a mishmash of scandal that makes it very hard to distinguish the signal (real things we should care about) from the noise (stupid conspiracies and baseless allegations).

The republican party and right-wing news sources have, at this point, very much become the boy who cried wolf. The last X Clinton Scandals (and the list really does just go on and on and on) were partisan nonsense; why should we buy this one?
You just wait! The next Benghazi inquiry will find something!
 
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I'm not wondering. It's because the mainstream media has for years given the Left a pass, and they're still at it.
I suppose this is why this latest "scandal" has only been reported on by:

- Associated Press (they broke the story)
- The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
- The New York Times again: www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us/politics/election-clinton-foundation.html
- The Boston Globe: https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...pting-funds/W8JsNkBseYo6wIxWosNb5O/story.html
- The Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5b5200-6882-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html
- ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/donors-clinton-foundation-met-state-41610076
- MSNBC News: - BBC News: http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37168505

I'm going to stop there, because this is just ridiculous. Virtually every single mainstream news source reported on this alleged scandal, just like virtually every single mainstream news source reported all the previous scandals and controversies. The media is not giving the left a soft pass... Unless you compare them to the right-wing blogosphere and FOX News, in which case the issue is not that the media is giving the left a soft pass, but that the media has standards.

Yeah, places like the Washington Post may be just a little hesitant to immediately push a shocking headline, and may instead want to look for things like evidence or a clear picture, lest not doing so lead to another Dan Rather situation*. Sites like, say, Breitbart or The Daily Caller have no such qualms. The moment a piece of news hits, they leap on it, regardless of how accurate or meaningful it is, then proceed to complain that the "mainstream media" isn't reporting on it. Never mind that, as a result, these places quite regularly repeat claims that simply do not hold up at all. And because they don't need to even produce the illusion of being non-partisan and almost never have to worry about their viewers fact-checking anything (because if these people cared about the truth and were capable of independent fact-checking, they would not be reading Breitbart in the first place), they are able to both be fast and vicious, and get away with incredibly dishonest reporting. And then they get to blame the mainstream media for being "biased" because they were slower on the uptake and less willing to reach for the more fanciful explanations for what's going on.

This is essentially the con behind the "mainstream media liberal bias". Believe it or not, the mainstream media does, in fact, report on these scandals. It just doesn't blow them all way out of proportion, jump to unreasonable conclusions, or publish before the facts are clear. And given the comparison, that makes it look liberal.


*Friendly reminder: Dan Rather, one of the most trusted and respected newsmen in America, essentially ended his 50-year career in journalism not for lying but simply for not doing due diligence in fact-checking a hot news item he found and reporting on it without first making sure that it wasn't a hoax. If the anchors at Fox News held themselves to this standard, there would not be a Fox News.
 
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I'm not wondering. It's because the mainstream media has for years given the Left a pass, and they're still at it.
This is hysterical! The response to an OP about the current right wing hysteria is to bring up the classic right wing hysteria.

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You just wait! The next Benghazi inquiry will find something!

If Clinton is elected ......

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