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<blockquote data-quote="lawtonfogle" data-source="post: 55782623" data-attributes="member: 108642"><p>If God does not exist, then His property of existence is not maximum, thus He does not exist.</p><p></p><p>It makes about as much sense as the following.</p><p></p><p>1. Bob is some being who is has the maximal of all properties that begin with the letter e and who lives under Lawtonfogle's bed.</p><p>2. Existence is a property, whose maximum is the state of existing (and whose name begins with e.</p><p>3. Therefore, Bob's property of existence is maximal.</p><p>4. Therefore, Bob exists.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Last I checked, there isn't anyone living under my bed.</p><p>Actually, one could run with this and prove anything exist as long as that thing had the maximal property of existence.</p><p></p><p>The end result is this is merely circular logic though. Given 2 and 3 of the original argument, we see that giving something the maximal of the property of existence is saying it exist. In one, we give God said property, basically meaning we start by defining that God exists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lawtonfogle, post: 55782623, member: 108642"] If God does not exist, then His property of existence is not maximum, thus He does not exist. It makes about as much sense as the following. 1. Bob is some being who is has the maximal of all properties that begin with the letter e and who lives under Lawtonfogle's bed. 2. Existence is a property, whose maximum is the state of existing (and whose name begins with e. 3. Therefore, Bob's property of existence is maximal. 4. Therefore, Bob exists. Last I checked, there isn't anyone living under my bed. Actually, one could run with this and prove anything exist as long as that thing had the maximal property of existence. The end result is this is merely circular logic though. Given 2 and 3 of the original argument, we see that giving something the maximal of the property of existence is saying it exist. In one, we give God said property, basically meaning we start by defining that God exists. [/QUOTE]
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