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Some of us have the same capacity for logical thought as fruit flies though...JohnR7 said:We are people, we are not bactera, we are not fruit flys and we are not monkeys, we are people.
And what do we share in common with all of these. We share genes, which mutate, allowing us to have different variations like you and the rest of us. If it were not for mutations, we would all have the same genes.JohnR7 said:We are people, we are not bactera, we are not fruit flys and we are not monkeys, we are people.
So if it were not for mutations do you think that we would all still be bacteria and fruit flys?I_Love_Cheese said:If it were not for mutations, we would all have the same genes.
So where does "logical thought" come from? Did it mutate or evolve in some way?TheNewAge said:Some of us have the same capacity for logical thought as fruit flies though...
JohnR7 said:It is based on lack of evidence on the part of science. I would be glad to look at their evidence for their mutation theory if they had any, but they do not have any. We are what we are because of genetics, not because of mutations.
Logical thought is a conceptual term used to describe a group of process, which evolved along with the quantity of brainmatter our species possesses.JohnR7 said:So where does "logical thought" come from? Did it mutate or evolve in some way?
No we would never have gotten that far.JohnR7 said:So if it were not for mutations do you think that we would all still be bacteria and fruit flys?
lol. Priceless. And this from the same guy who declared a priori that any evidence for evolution is automatically wrong.JohnR7 said:It is based on lack of evidence on the part of science.
lol, unintentional irony ftw. Take a wild guess what field of science mutation has a HUGE impact on.We are what we are because of genetics, not because of mutations.
Right now I have been reading the "language of God", but I have not actually gotten to the part where he presents his arguement for evolution. I was planning on reading that today but I must have got distracted. But I am interested to see what sort of a case he builds for his belief in evolution.notto said:What books have you read written by biologists or genetecists led you to this conclusion?
Yeah, it is a cell that lacks a mitochondria. What about it? This should be interesting, do you have some sort of a claim about eukaryotes that you intend to make?Nooj said:Have you heard of eukaryotes?
strangely enough...there is ALSO mitochondrial DNA evidence to support evolution./Yeah, it is a cell that lacks a mitochondria. What about it? This should be interesting, do you have some sort of a claim about eukaryotes that you intend to make?
JohnR7 said:Right now I have been reading the "language of God", but I have not actually gotten to the part where he presents his arguement for evolution. I was planning on reading that today but I must have got distracted. But I am interested to see what sort of a case he builds for his belief in evolution.
I think this has to potential to becoming a classic book. He comes up with some fairly good answers for a wide range of different questions that people have. It maybe a while before someone comes along with better answers that what Dr Collins has on the table right now.
Also he is sort of a historical figure because he was the first to sequence DNA. It seems like the first person to do something always gets talked about a lot.
If you want someone that is really "misguided" then look at people like Gould and his cronies. At least he could accept that change could take place pretty quick. Also he came against Darwins atheistic evoluton.notto said:I'm trying to understand where you get your (misguided) understanding of evolution?
Your doubts and claims really seem silly if you can't even explain what the theory really is.
You keep avoiding the question John.JohnR7 said:If you want someone that is really "misguided" then look at people like Gould and his cronies. At least he could accept that change could take place pretty quick. Also he came against Darwins atheistic evoluton.
So what about the people that Gould challanged, where did they get their degree and their understanding about evolution?
Anyways, if you want to understand where I get it from, then maybe you need to understand that there are people who can think for themselves. Becasue they have eyes and can see what is going on.
OK then. So God created at least 200 or so humans outside of Eden, before Adam and Eve, correct? Adam and Eve were special. Did the other humans have souls? How were they different?JohnR7 said:Francis Collins in his book "The Language of God" says on pg 207: "the Bible texts themselves seem to suggest that there were other humans present at the same time that Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden. Otherwise, where did Cain's wife, mentioned only after he left Eden to live in the land of Nod (Genesis 1:16-17) come from?"
It would appear that the humans are made up of more than just one man and one women in the last 6,000 years. The Bible is just the history of the Hebrew & Arab people. Not the "gentiles" or non semetic people.
But these things also happened in Egypt, China and India.JohnR7 said:I do not think anyone would deny the scientific research that indicates that the semetics share a common ancestor form the same time and the same location that the Bible indicates. Around what is now Syria where we find the worlds oldest cities, the beginning of farming, the beginning of the use of metal and the list goes on and on all the things that began in this part of the world at this time, just as the Bible tells us is all did.
Again the evidence shows that there were other centers of civilization in India and Egypt, and in China a bit later in time. There is no evidence they are initially connected with Syria, although trade did eventually develop between them.JohnR7 said:Bryan Sykes in his book "The seven daughters of eve" shows how farming spread out to the rest of the world from Eden or what science calls Syria.
JohnR7 said:, do you have some sort of a claim about eukaryotes that you intend to make?
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