The Not Listening Excuse...

DD2008 · Feb 28, 2009

benedictaoo said:
so we were lying?

No. I wasn't lying anyway. I hope you weren't, but how would I know? I'm not you.

LittleLambofJesus · Feb 28, 2009

This exchange kept me cracking up for a long time. It goes into my infamous "believe it not" folder

http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=50870605&postcount=34

&Abel · Feb 28, 2009

benedictaoo said:
so we were lying?

just stop already

DD2008 · Feb 28, 2009

Intercisus said:
Let's just say that thread and many others on GT went wrong for multiple reasons. Intentional or unintentional failure to understand other's positions being just one of the many problems. At this point there's no need to hang onto anger, frustration and an unforgiving attitude when dealing with our fellow Christians.

I agree

Musa80 · Feb 28, 2009

LittleLambofJesus said:
This exchange kept me cracking up for a long time. It goes into my infamous "believe it not" folder

http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=50870605&postcount=34

You actually keep a folder? I always wondered how you popped up ancient threads in the blink fo an eye.

DD2008 · Feb 28, 2009

Intercisus said:
You actually keep a folder? I always wondered how you popped up ancient threads in the blink fo an eye.

Yeah, that explains a lot.

LittleLambofJesus · Feb 28, 2009

Intercisus said:
You actually keep a folder? I always wondered how you popped up ancient threads in the blink fo an eye.

The tricky part is what to name the file so I can find it easily

&Abel · Feb 28, 2009

LamorakDesGalis · Feb 28, 2009

Good thread, great pictures.

I think when some people say, "You're not listening" it really means, "You are not understanding this the way I'm understanding it."

As someone who has studied a good number of views, Christian and nonchristian, most views are logically coherent given their assumptions. That doesn't make them correct - but it does explain why some very intelligent or nice people hold to certain beliefs.

Most people try to understand a different view based on their own personal assumptions. Since the assumptions don't match, it just never quite makes sense, and leads to a quick dismissal. Instead one must identify the assumptions of the other view, then "walk in their shoes" to arrive at even a basic understanding.

Of course that kind of communication takes work, and for interaction to take place requires respect of the "opposition" and some degree of humility to admit to not knowing something.

LDG

benedictaoo · Feb 28, 2009

&Abel said:
just stop already

i don't think so.... la, you just can't make these kinds accusations against ppl and not back them up with any reputable evidence.

It's really not very Christian to do this in case any one here didn't know that.

You need to take ppl at their word and then at least TRY to understand what they are saying.

To just plug up your ears and continue to spew more accusations is not something I respect at all coming form any one baring the name Christian.

LittleLambofJesus · Feb 28, 2009

Wow this is starting to get "ugly"

benedictaoo · Feb 28, 2009

DD2008 said:
No. I wasn't lying anyway. I hope you weren't, but how would I know? I'm not you.

Oh my g-d.. lol, but you sure as heck can tell WHO I'm worshipping but you can't tell if I'm lying??

You are something i can not say on this open forum.

DD2008 · Feb 28, 2009

benedictaoo said:
i don't think so.... la, you just can't make these kinds accusations against ppl and not back them up with any reputable evidence.

It's really not very Christian to do this in case any one here didn't know that.

You need to take ppl at their word and then at least TRY to understand what they are saying.

To just plug up your ears and continue to spew more accusations is not something I respect at all coming form any one baring the name Christian.

&Abel · Feb 28, 2009

benedictaoo said:
Oh my g-d.. lol, but you sure as heck can tell WHO I'm worshipping but you can't tell if I'm lying??

You are something i can not say on this open forum.

just let me say that I think your a christian either way

regardless of whether I think the act is technically contrary(or at least waaaay too similar) to something god forbids

you are still a believer in Jesus and I consider you brethren...we all get things wrong(including me and DD2008)

&Abel · Feb 28, 2009

DD2008 said:

whos who?

DD2008 · Feb 28, 2009

benedictaoo said:
Oh my g-d.. lol, but you sure as heck can tell WHO I'm worshipping but you can't tell if I'm lying??

You are something i can not say on this open forum.

Does this mean I'm off the Christmas card list?

MamaZ · Feb 28, 2009

benedictaoo said:
it's not an excuse... ppl do not listen to what we say. period

we can listen and we can hear but when actions do not follow up the words then I question of what I heard was actually the truth of what they say.. Such as the other thread that was closed.. I heard and I understood and I took it to scripture and scripture tells me that bowing is a part of worship just as when the man tried to bow at Peters feet and He was not happy about it.. Like when John bowed before the Angel and He too told him to stand.. So bowing to a marble image and praying to who this marble image is of to me looks like worship. One says they do not but the actions do not meet the words..

&Abel · Feb 28, 2009

DD2008 said:
Does this mean I'm off the Christmas card list?

you were never on it heretic!

DD2008 · Feb 28, 2009

&Abel said:
you were never on it heretic!

I guess not.

benedictaoo · Feb 28, 2009

Intercisus said:
Let's just say that thread and many others on GT went wrong for multiple reasons. Intentional or unintentional failure to understand other's positions being just one of the many problems. At this point there's no need to hang onto anger, frustration and an unforgiving attitude when dealing with our fellow Christians.

The bottom line is as follows... DD, I think likes this arguing becuase he invited me to this thread under the false pretense that it was an attempt to come to a meeting of the minds... and then I read the OP and he calls it an excuse???

It is no excuse, it is absolutely the truth... last night, none of them were listening at all to our explanations.

DD went on and on and on posting rubbish, claiming we do not worship God, we do not trust God, claiming we do not have faith in God, etc.

EXCUSE ME.... But that is akin to claiming we are not Christian and not only are we not Christian but we are pagan.

I ahve no time for that rubbish... I' m not entertaining that rubbish.... I'm just over and been done with Anti Catholics. I do not give them the time of day.

Dave, Come and find me when you are ready to stop perpetuating 500 year old lies.

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