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The Nationalist's Delusion: Disavowing Racism while promising to enact broad descrimination

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A friend of mine shared this article with me this morning, and it was probably one of the best articles on modern American politics that I have ever read. I know that's a bold statement, but that's how I felt after reading it. It talks about how racism, partisanship, socioeconomic status, and everything is all connected to get someone as divisive as Trump elected.


The Nationalist's Delusion

Here are what I thought were the highlights...











 

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The left is what got Trump elected. This racism crap was supposed to be put behind us after we elected Obama. But no, it just got exponentially worse. Guess what, demonizing your opponents as racist devalues the term, trivializes the effects, and breeds resentment that manifests as actual racism. See: Self Fulfilling Prophecy

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[Staff edit].

Yes, some were foolish enough to believe Trump during the campaign. That is changing.

Black women helped Doug Jones to victory over Roy Moore in Alabama

And there is Trump at his news conference saying some Nazis and KKK are "very fine people". Minorities will not forget that. And it is hurting Trump:

Poll: Trump's approval rating makes him least popular first-year president on record

http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26...lics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/
Trump Unpopular Worldwide, American Image Suffers


 
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Except he didn't. He said some weren't nazis. Which is true. Also, where's your condemnation for the communist Antifa who turned the entire event into a violent free for all, like they have several times in Berkley and in Hamburg just this year.
 
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Except he didn't. He said some weren't nazis. Which is true. Also, where's your condemnation for the communist Antifa who turned the entire event into a violent free for all, like they have several times in Berkley and in Hamburg just this year.
Nonsense. It was very clear what Trump said and meant. This is why so many people quit his presidential committees over this, some calling Trump out for his racism and divisiveness.
President's arts advisers resign over Trump's Charlottesville response
Trump's business advisory councils disband as CEOs abandon Trump over Charlottesville views

 
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This article is certainly one of the best articles I've read in a long time. Thank you for sharing it.


I second that.
 
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I'm afraid the articles you posted and the legitimate points you made about Trump will fall on deaf ears by the majority of Trump supporters. And that is why I'm always pleased when I encounter a former evangelical supporter of his or an evangelical conservative who refused to support him in the first place. I shared a story of former Trump supporters several months ago and I thought I would share that story with you in this thread. You can click here to read my older post with the story in it.
 
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Thank you. This was very interesting and true.

I admit I find it very confusing to see Christians support man who brags about sexually assaulting women by grabbing their vaginas, who brags about being perverted peeping tom on the women in his pageant. Who ran scam "University" to take last dollars from desperate people. Who openly displayed his racism by refusing to rent to people of color.

To me this all seems exact opposite of what it means to be Christian. But it is obvious that other people have different idea of what it means to be Christian.
 
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Did you support Hillary?
 
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I've encountered that kind of reaction to a discussion of racism from some white people before. The usual and most popular tactic I've encountered was to shame the person into silence who started the discussion of racism. This tactic would include accusing the person of being a racist themselves and insisting that racism against minorities no longer exists and/or shaming the person by telling them to stop playing the victim and stop living in the past. I've encountered this tactic more times than I can count for almost 25 years since I first began my involvement in Native American political activism and other social justice issues. It's become very predictable and I've come to expect its ad nauseam use.
 
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It’s because to a great many people ‘Republican’ equals ‘Jesus’.

It is literally that simple.
 
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I didn't see this part of your post, Yonny, when I first responded to it. I agree with everything you said in your post. The evangelical support for Trump once confused me as well, but it doesn't anymore because I've witnessed so many evangelicals sing his praises, refer to him as a man of faith and a man of integrity. These Christians also seem apparently willingly to dismiss his questionable behavior too. They seem willing to defend him or make excuses for him no matter what he does or says.

I finally concluded after several weeks of listening to these Christians bending over backward to praise Trump and defend him that either he represents what they believe themselves and they agree with him or their religious political conservatism must supersede whatever else is going on in their life. I don't know how else to explain the alarming level of support for Trump from so many evangelical Christians. I've heard various excuses and attempts at justification for supporting Trump from these Christians, but nothing I've heard so far has been adequate enough to explain their support of him. If Trump was the best candidate that evangelical Republicans could produce to represent their political party and their Christian faith, let alone themselves, then maybe they have truly lost their way.
 
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[Staff edit].

I think we should also consider the following articles involving Trump and his questionable history concerning racial relations and other racial issues in his past. I think this information is important because the various content in these articles demonstrate that Trump has a documented history of this kind of behavior.

Trump's Long History of Racism

Trump and race: Decades of fueling divisions

Is Donald Trump Racist? Here's What the Record Shows

Trump Condemned Racism As ‘Evil.’ Here Are 18 Times He Embraced It.

‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and Was First Accused of Bias

The FBI released hundreds of pages related to a 1970s housing discrimination lawsuit against Trump
 
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Border enforcement, immigration restriction and vetting processes can be racist or not depending on how they're done. For instance, if vetting consists of "no Muslims", then it's bigoted; if it's "no jihadis", then it is not.
 
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Border enforcement, immigration restriction and vetting processes can be racist or not depending on how they're done. For instance, if vetting consists of "no Muslims", then it's bigoted; if it's "no jihadis", then it is not.

Great, then we agree Trump's programs have not been racist or bigoted.
 
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