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<blockquote data-quote="contratodo" data-source="post: 77616051" data-attributes="member: 376247"><p>Genesis 1:7</p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were <u>under</u> the firmament</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">from the waters which were <u>above</u> the firmament, and it was so.</span></p><p></p><p>Genesis 1:8</p><p><u><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">And God called the firmament Heaven</span></u><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">. </span></p><p></p><p>Genesis 1:10</p><p><u><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">And God called the dry land Earth</span></u><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">.</span></p><p></p><p>Genesis 1:11-13</p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">And God said, let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind, whose seed is in itself,</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">upon the land and it was so.</span></p><p></p><p>Genesis 1:14</p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">And God said, Let there be lights <u>in</u> the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">and let them be for signs and seasons and days and years</span></p><p></p><p>Genesis 1:17</p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">And God set [the sun and moon] <u>in</u> the firmament of the heaven</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">to give light upon the land</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>But it is not so?</p><p>First the stars must have been made, right?</p><p>The stars must have come before the plants so even the order given in Genesis must be wrong, yes?</p><p>The Bible is very wrong, yes? It's much like a fiction story then, no?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">The heavens declare the glory of God;</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">and the firmament shows His handy work</span></p><p>Psalms 19:1</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">Their line is gone out through all the land, and their words to the end of the world.</span></p><p>Psalms 19:4</p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">In them He set a tent for the sun,</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">and rejoices as a strong man to run a race.</span></p><p>Psalms 19:5</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">His going forth is from one end of heaven, (<u>the sky</u>)</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">and his circuit to the end of it;</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><u>and there is nothing hid from the heat of it</u>.</span></p><p>Psalms 19:6</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"<span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">And the sun stood still, <u>and the moon stopped</u>,</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">Is it not written in the book of Jasher?</span>"</p><p>Joshua 10:13 </p><p></p><p>It did not really happen? That is not an actual account of what happened?</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">It is He that sits above the circle of the land,</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">that stretches out the heavens as a curtain,</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in</span></p><p>Isaiah 40:22</p><p></p><p></p><p><u><strong>Job 38 is God speaking, an account of God speaking to Job.</strong></u></p><p>But you say what, it is just poetry, the writer had no real connection to the voice of God?</p><p>It is not an actual account of words spoken by God? It is something else? That's what you say?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Job 38:4</p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?</span></p><p></p><p>Job 38:8</p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Or who shut up the sea with doors,</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?</span></p><p>Job 38:9</p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">When I made the cloud the garment thereof</span> ( of the sea! )</p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it </span>( Isaiah 50:3 )<span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">and <u>fixed my limit for it</u>, <u>and set bars and doors</u>.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">And said hither to shall you come, but not further:</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"><u>and here shall thy proud waves be stayed</u> </span>( the sky! the firmament, hard as a molten looking glass! Job 37:18 )</p><p>Job 38:10-11</p><p></p><p>But it is not an account of what God actually said? That is your contention?</p><p></p><p>Who is speaking in Job 38! Not God Almighty?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Have the gates of death been opened unto you?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Or have you seen the doors of the shadow of death?</span></p><p>Job 38:17</p><p></p><p>God has! In Christ!</p><p></p><p>But Job 38 is Not actually God speaking? It is something else?</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Have you entered into the treasures of the snow?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Or have you seen the treasures of the hail?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Which I have reserved against the time of trouble</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">against the day of battle and of war?</span></p><p>Job 38:22-23</p><p></p><p>One of the top ten reasons Hitler lost the war, was due to the harsh Russian winter!</p><p></p><p>But Job 38 is not actually God speaking!? Is that your contention?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="contratodo, post: 77616051, member: 376247"] Genesis 1:7 [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were [U]under[/U] the firmament from the waters which were [U]above[/U] the firmament, and it was so.[/COLOR] Genesis 1:8 [U][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]And God called the firmament Heaven[/COLOR][/U][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]. [/COLOR] Genesis 1:10 [U][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]And God called the dry land Earth[/COLOR][/U][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)].[/COLOR] Genesis 1:11-13 [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]And God said, let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the land and it was so.[/COLOR] Genesis 1:14 [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]And God said, Let there be lights [U]in[/U] the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night and let them be for signs and seasons and days and years[/COLOR] Genesis 1:17 [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]And God set [the sun and moon] [U]in[/U] the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the land[/COLOR] But it is not so? First the stars must have been made, right? The stars must have come before the plants so even the order given in Genesis must be wrong, yes? The Bible is very wrong, yes? It's much like a fiction story then, no? [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows His handy work[/COLOR] Psalms 19:1 [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]Their line is gone out through all the land, and their words to the end of the world.[/COLOR] Psalms 19:4 [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]In them He set a tent for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices as a strong man to run a race.[/COLOR] Psalms 19:5 [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]His going forth is from one end of heaven, ([U]the sky[/U]) and his circuit to the end of it; [U]and there is nothing hid from the heat of it[/U].[/COLOR] Psalms 19:6 "[COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]And the sun stood still, [U]and the moon stopped[/U], until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is it not written in the book of Jasher?[/COLOR]" Joshua 10:13 It did not really happen? That is not an actual account of what happened? [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]It is He that sits above the circle of the land, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in[/COLOR] Isaiah 40:22 [U][B]Job 38 is God speaking, an account of God speaking to Job.[/B][/U] But you say what, it is just poetry, the writer had no real connection to the voice of God? It is not an actual account of words spoken by God? It is something else? That's what you say? Job 38:4 [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?[/COLOR] Job 38:8 [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?[/COLOR] Job 38:9 [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]When I made the cloud the garment thereof[/COLOR] ( of the sea! ) [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it [/COLOR]( Isaiah 50:3 )[COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)] and [U]fixed my limit for it[/U], [U]and set bars and doors[/U]. And said hither to shall you come, but not further: [U]and here shall thy proud waves be stayed[/U] [/COLOR]( the sky! the firmament, hard as a molten looking glass! Job 37:18 ) Job 38:10-11 But it is not an account of what God actually said? That is your contention? Who is speaking in Job 38! Not God Almighty? [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Have the gates of death been opened unto you? Or have you seen the doors of the shadow of death?[/COLOR] Job 38:17 God has! In Christ! But Job 38 is Not actually God speaking? It is something else? [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Have you entered into the treasures of the snow? Or have you seen the treasures of the hail? Which I have reserved against the time of trouble against the day of battle and of war?[/COLOR] Job 38:22-23 One of the top ten reasons Hitler lost the war, was due to the harsh Russian winter! But Job 38 is not actually God speaking!? Is that your contention? [/QUOTE]
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