The mystery of 153 Fish

[visionary]

Ran into an interesting article on the 153 fish and what is significant in that number. Thought I would share it here and see what you all think. The Mystery of the 153 Fish | Ladder of Jacob

 

[visionary]

 

[Hoshiyya]

From what I see, it really looks like a good article. Thanks for sharing this link. I will give it a read-through.

 

[Hoshiyya]

It certainly is a very interesting name, Betzalel, "in the shade of God", especially if one is familiar with the Egyptian concept of the shade: each person's shadow was an extension of his personality, one of his five souls. (Betzalel was born in Egypt.)

Furthermore, the word tzal is similar to tzela, which means rib.
The woman was created or drawn out from the man's rib, much as a person's shadow is created or drawn out from the person.

 

[visionary]

It certainly is a very interesting name, Betzalel, "in the shade of God", especially if one is familiar with the Egyptian concept of the shade: each person's shadow was an extension of his personality, one of his five souls. (Betzalel was born in Egypt.)

Furthermore, the word tzal is similar to tzela, which means rib.
The woman was created or drawn out from the man's rib, much as a person's shadow is created or drawn out from the person.

So Betzalel was an Egyptian who left with the Israelites and became one of the multitudes of Gentiles. Interesting that it is this Gentile who made the first tabernacle and its articles.

 

[Hoshiyya]

So Betzalel was an Egyptian who left with the Israelites and became one of the multitudes of Gentiles. Interesting that it is this Gentile who made the first tabernacle and its articles.

I didn't say he was a gentile, I am just pointing out that he came out of Egypt just like the (other) Israelites did, and that in Egypt the concept of the shadow had a certain significance. Then I compared tzal (shade) with tzela (rib).

(Exodus 35:30 says he was from the tribe of Judah, but if you were going to choose a gentile to build an impressive piece of work, the Egyptians - famous for their architecture and sculptures - would probably be the best choice. Chances are Bezalel was a master workman who learned a thing or two from Egyptian mason-work.)

Many believe, btw, that Phinehas the famous Levite had an Egyptian name.
(If his name is Hebrew it might mean something like snake-mouth? brass-mouth? A bit strange.)

 

[Lulav]

I didn't say he was a gentile, I am just pointing out that he came out of Egypt just like the (other) Israelites did, and that in Egypt the concept of the shadow had a certain significance. Then I compared tzal (shade) with tzela (rib).

(Exodus 35:30 says he was from the tribe of Judah, but if you were going to choose a gentile to build an impressive piece of work, the Egyptians - famous for their architecture and sculptures - would probably be the best choice. Chances are Bezalel was a master workman who learned a thing or two from Egyptian mason-work.)

Many believe, btw, that Phinehas the famous Levite had an Egyptian name.
(If his name is Hebrew it might mean something like snake-mouth? brass-mouth? A bit strange.)

While being a slave? Doesn't that fly in the face of what we read about him?

"Then the Lord said to Moses, See, I have chosen Bezalel son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah, and I have filled him with the Spirit of God, with wisdom, with understanding, with knowledge and with all manner of workmanship - to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." (Exodus 31, 1-5).

Seems that the L-RD himself gave him the knowledge and know how to create the things needed to worship Him. Even though there are Egyptian artifacts that may resemble the holy furniture does not mean it was patterned after theirs. Most likely is that those other 'gods' were only one 'god' who wished to be worshiped as the true G-d and having access to heaven knew what these things looked like and gave knowledge to his followers to built them for him.

It was not uncommon for the Israelites to have Egyptian names, Moses is a great example of that.

The name Pinchas or Phineas is of Hebrew origin meaning oracle, at least that is the common consensus. It also could mean Nubian, perhaps his mother was Nubian as they were slaves during the time in Egypt also?

 

[Hoshiyya]

While being a slave? Doesn't that fly in the face of what we read about him?

"Then the Lord said to Moses, See, I have chosen Bezalel son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah, and I have filled him with the Spirit of God, with wisdom, with understanding, with knowledge and with all manner of workmanship - to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." (Exodus 31, 1-5).

Seems that the L-RD himself gave him the knowledge and know how to create the things needed to worship Him. Even though there are Egyptian artifacts that may resemble the holy furniture does not mean it was patterned after theirs. Most likely is that those other 'gods' were only one 'god' who wished to be worshiped as the true G-d and having access to heaven knew what these things looked like and gave knowledge to his followers to built them for him.

It was not uncommon for the Israelites to have Egyptian names, Moses is a great example of that.

The name Pinchas or Phineas is of Hebrew origin meaning oracle, at least that is the common consensus. It also could mean Nubian, perhaps his mother was Nubian as they were slaves during the time in Egypt also?

"Doesn't that fly in the face of what we read about him?"

No I don't think it does. In fact I think it is extremely unrealistic to think EVERY single Israelite was a "slave" in the American sense of the term. It contradicts what the traditions say as well.

( By the way, even in America, the Afro-American slaves had different positions. They didn't all work in the field. )

God doesn't just choose a random person for a task. He chooses those with the right potential or skill-set, and then sharpens their ability.

"The name Pinchas or Phineas is of Hebrew origin meaning oracle"

I don't know where you came up with that... It contradicts what I've read.
Pretty sure it contradicts the consensus as well.

The Oxford Guide to the Bible and Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew and English Lexicon identify it as a variant of the Egyptian name Pa-nehasi.

" It was not uncommon for the Israelites to have Egyptian names, Moses is a great example of that. "

Actually Mosheh is Hebrew.

It refers to him being drawn out of the water.

 

[visionary]

I found this interesting too.

“The name Betzalel is not mentioned in conjunction with any of the furnishings [of the Mishkan], except regarding the Ark. This teaches us that he was [as his name implies] בצל אל, in God’s Shadow, i.e. he knew the secret of the Ark and of the Chariot, for the Ark corresponds to the Throne of Glory.”
Artscroll Baal HaTurim Chumash Exodus 37:1, pg 948

 

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[Lulav]

"Doesn't that fly in the face of what we read about him?"

No I don't think it does. In fact I think it is extremely unrealistic to think EVERY single Israelite was a "slave" in the American sense of the term. It contradicts what the traditions say as well.

( By the way, even in America, the Afro-American slaves had different positions. They didn't all work in the field. )

It has nothing to do with who was a slave but what the text plainly states, as you did not address it I will repost it.

"Then the Lord said to Moses, See, I have chosen Bezalel son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah, and I have filled him with the Spirit of God, with wisdom, with understanding, with knowledge and with all manner of workmanship - to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." (Exodus 31, 1-5).

Would you would rather credit the Egyptians to train a person to build the holy things of worshiping the one true G-d than G-d himself? don't quite understand that. I'll take what the Torah says about this firstly over the traditions.

God doesn't just choose a random person for a task. He chooses those with the right potential or skill-set, and then sharpens their ability.

Where do you suppose they have that potential from? I think, and I'm sure you've heard it said that G-d does not choose those with the right potential or skill set as His interaction would not be recognized. "G-d doesn't call the equipped He equips the Called" or "G-d doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called'.

Moses was called to speak to Pharoah and he protested as he was slow of tongue. David was but a boy when he faced Goliath. Sarah was way too old to conceive a child, do I need to go on?

"The name Pinchas or Phineas is of Hebrew origin meaning oracle"

I don't know where you came up with that... It contradicts what I've read.
Pretty sure it contradicts the consensus as well.

The Oxford Guide to the Bible and Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew and English Lexicon identify it as a variant of the Egyptian name Pa-nehasi.

You said above

Many believe, btw, that Phinehas the famous Levite had an Egyptian name.
(If his name is Hebrew it might mean something like snake-mouth? brass-mouth? A bit strange.)

Yes, and the brass mouth or serpent mouth was an ancient way of an oracle. Not worth arguing over but I somewhat doubt he was a Nubian.

" It was not uncommon for the Israelites to have Egyptian names, Moses is a great example of that. "

Actually Mosheh is Hebrew.

It refers to him being drawn out of the water.

That is the explanation given but it is strange that Egyptian royalty names include 'moses' or 'mose'
Ra-mose, Tuth-moses, Ah-moses, Kah-moses

It is most likely only part of his name, it means born of or son, like 'ben' or 'bar'.

 

[visionary]

The numerical value of the Hebrew letters ANA HA ELOHIM [I am God] is 153. When Yeshua appeared to the disciples as they where fishing and told them to drop the net into the water, they specifically caught 153 fish.

 

[Lulav]

Actually if where you got that it is spelled that way, it would not be Hebrew, but Aramaic.

'Ana' is Aramaic for, 'me' or 'I' while in Hebrew it is 'ani'
So the Aramaic would be Alef, nun Alef = 52 for 'ana'

Whereas 'Ani' would be 'Alef Nun Yod' which is a difference of 9 and would be in gematria= 61

 

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A1 - Z26

John 21:11

~Y~E~S~H~U~A~ saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.
Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an Hundred and Fifty and Three and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.

~Y~E~S~H~U~A~JESUS 153

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[SteveCaruso]

Actually if where you got that it is spelled that way, it would not be Hebrew, but Aramaic.

'Ana' is Aramaic for, 'me' or 'I' while in Hebrew it is 'ani'
So the Aramaic would be Alef, nun Alef = 52 for 'ana'

Whereas 'Ani' would be 'Alef Nun Yod' which is a difference of 9 and would be in gematria= 61

Aye, and here's where it gets funny: In Jesus' dialect (Galilean) /ana/ was spelled with a He at the end (אנה), and numbers were calculated by smaller letters in front of larger ones as further place values, so where Alef(1) + Nun(50) + He(5) would be 56 in gematria, it would represent 1,055 (Alef(1) x1,000, Nun(50) + He(5)) if interpreted as a numeral.