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No offense to the victims of 9-11. But their needs have absolutely zero to do with this discussion.
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???I don't think New Yorkers would would agree with you calling it two different understandings of faith.
They had a terrible tragedy occur, with a great loss of life and limb, and the last thing they need is some academian analyzing what understanding of faith was employed to get the job done.
So if you and I were debating each other on the John Ankerberg show, and you said the Mariana Trench was 6.78 miles deep, and I asked you where you heard that; what would you say?
I feel pressured to comment on this deep topic that physically going there would indeed be a crushing experience.According to Wikipedia, the Mariana Trench reaches a maximum depth of 6.78 miles.If you accept this as factual, without going there and measuring it yourself --- even if everyone on earth goes there and measures it (except you) and comes back with the same figure --- then I contend that you're taking it on faith that the Mariana Trench has a maximum depth of 6.78 miles.
Faith in the written documentation and/or eyewitness testimony and/or anecdotal testimony --- either way --- it's still faith.
And I don't care if you're a taxi driver, a chef, a ballerina, or an oceanographer looking at computer printouts and sonar graphs; if you haven't gone there yourself, then you're [correctly] accepting the written documentation.
This is as it should be --- and it's called 'walking by faith'.
Yes.
And of those 7 billion, how many think evolution is true (or even heard of it)?
And the truth isn't yours, is it?
With fewer than a dozen or so major differences between them.
So if you and I were debating each other on the John Ankerberg show, and you said the Mariana Trench was 6.78 miles deep, and I asked you where you heard that; what would you say?
We live by a rule that academians don't like:So if a bunch of people skilled in the area they are studying all perform tests and they all get results that agree, do you think it is likely that they got the right result or the wrong result?
And if the dentist doesn't agree, he can take a hike, can't he?When I have problems with my laptop, I take the word of a computer technician as more relevant than the word of a dentist.
Paul was a man, therefore he was a liar. Hmmm, do you see a problem here?We live by a rule that academians don't like:
Romans 3:4a God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;
Nice try.Paul was a man, therefore he was a liar. Hmmm, do you see a problem here?
You didn't answer the question. I'll take that to mean you recognise the problem but choose to ignore it.Nice try.
And yet the different sects have been perfectly happy to kill each other over those differences.
But yeah, this religion divided up into lots of different versions with differences that people from other versions view as being worthy of violence, bloodshed and murder, yeah, that's obviously true.
If Christianity really was the inspired word of God, there wouldn't be ANY differences!
Secondly, The truth isn't mine, it's reality. Reality by definition is correct. So that's why I base my views about reality on an investigation of reality.
Catholics and Protestants until extremely recently in Northern Ireland.Which Christian denominations are killing each other today?
Catholics and Protestants until extremely recently in Northern Ireland.
There is a lull in interdenominational violence. But a quick look at Christian history shows there is a definite proclivity for violence against those who hold differing beliefs. These days it's aimed at wider population groups, irrespective of religious beliefs (India, China, US are prime examples).
In spite of the Bible, or with respect to It?Catholics and Protestants until extremely recently in Northern Ireland.
There is a lull in interdenominational violence. But a quick look at Christian history shows there is a definite proclivity for violence against those who hold differing beliefs. These days it's aimed at wider population groups, irrespective of religious beliefs (India, China, US are prime examples).
Kinda like the Beatles chanting GIVE PEACE A CHANCE while funding the Irish Republican Army.Differences will remain in Northern Ireland but I believe the bloodshed of a generation ago is over.
In spite of the Bible, or with respect to It?
If you want to claim this:Are you claiming that Christians should follow agnostics view of the bible? If not your question is pointless. They followed their view of the bible.
Then I'm going to ask you if it was done in spite of the Bible, or with respect to It.But a quick look at Christian history shows there is a definite proclivity for violence against those who hold differing beliefs.
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