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It was already verified years ago --- by more than 500 eyewitnesses.However what you take "on faith" regarding your religion, cannot be verified, and thus your example is false.
It was already verified years ago --- by more than 500 eyewitnesses.
What more do you want?
Verification every generation?
Are you kidding me?Eyewitness testimony is extremely unreliable.
Are you kidding me?
If Joe Scientist was sent down to verify the depth of the Mariana Trench, and he fabricated the results, would he willingly die knowing that was a lie --- (if his life was threatened)?
Read Foxe's Book of Martyrs.
No, I didn't --- they believe it to be factual.As for the canard that people will not die for a lie, well, you just validated Islam.
No, I didn't --- they believe it to be factual.
Are you kidding me?
If Joe Scientist was sent down to verify the depth of the Mariana Trench, and he fabricated the results, would he willingly die knowing that was a lie --- (if his life was threatened)?
Read Foxe's Book of Martyrs.
That's right.How many died for David Koresh?
Being willing to die for something doesn't prove its validity.
No, I didn't --- they believe it to be factual.
That's right.
They say dying for something you think is true is not uncommon; but they also say that not one time in history has anyone ever died for something they knew was false.
Actually it's not a derail as it, in it's own way, directly deals with the preconception of the OP (not to mention AV1611Vet's own derailment of his own thread)So, they believe it to be factual, but it's a lie? However let's try and stay on the point. My apologies for the derail.
It was already verified years ago --- by more than 500 eyewitnesses.
What more do you want?
Verification every generation?
Are you kidding me?
If Joe Scientist was sent down to verify the depth of the Mariana Trench, and he fabricated the results, would he willingly die knowing that was a lie --- (if his life was threatened)?
Read Foxe's Book of Martyrs.
So just more made up male bovine feces on his part?snipped for brevity
So just more made up male bovine feces on his part?
That's what it's sounding like
According to Wikipedia, the Mariana Trench reaches a maximum depth of 6.78 miles.If you accept this as factual, without going there and measuring it yourself --- even if everyone on earth goes there and measures it (except you) and comes back with the same figure --- then I contend that you're taking it on faith that the Mariana Trench has a maximum depth of 6.78 miles.
Faith in the written documentation and/or eyewitness testimony and/or anecdotal testimony --- either way --- it's still faith.
And I don't care if you're a taxi driver, a chef, a ballerina, or an oceanographer looking at computer printouts and sonar graphs; if you haven't gone there yourself, then you're [correctly] accepting the written documentation.
This is as it should be --- and it's called 'walking by faith'.
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