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The Logic of the ACLU
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<blockquote data-quote="OllieFranz" data-source="post: 59334980" data-attributes="member: 194533"><p>I don't know what you read into my post, but your response only makes sense to me if I assume you are claiming that the Quakers were heartless sadists who deliberately set out to create a cruel prison system. I'd like to think that you are smarter than that. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if, like some ultra-conservatives I've known, you assume that the ACLU, and and the left in general, are agents of Satan, then it is possible that my calling the Quakers to the left of the ACLU on the issue of prison reform* may have hit a hot button and caused you to stop reading my post for sense and start scanning it for "keywords" taken out of context.</p><p></p><p>My point was that no matter what your philosophy of civil justice and the purpose of prisons, "common sense" without real data can lead to building a system which can get away from you and produce exactly the opposite effect from your intentions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OllieFranz, post: 59334980, member: 194533"] I don't know what you read into my post, but your response only makes sense to me if I assume you are claiming that the Quakers were heartless sadists who deliberately set out to create a cruel prison system. I'd like to think that you are smarter than that. On the other hand, if, like some ultra-conservatives I've known, you assume that the ACLU, and and the left in general, are agents of Satan, then it is possible that my calling the Quakers to the left of the ACLU on the issue of prison reform* may have hit a hot button and caused you to stop reading my post for sense and start scanning it for "keywords" taken out of context. My point was that no matter what your philosophy of civil justice and the purpose of prisons, "common sense" without real data can lead to building a system which can get away from you and produce exactly the opposite effect from your intentions. [/QUOTE]
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