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How do you know they are good men to trust their writings? How do you know they are good records? How do you know they were all "under the auspices of a good God?"
Science...religion..banking...show biz...you name it. Men are men.
Yes I do. The main kingdoms were all foretold. Jesus' life is well recorded, and we know He fulfilled the hundreds of prophesies.
Obviously you do not understand it.
Different ways of looking at the ratios with a same state belief means nothing.
Nope. You merely need a state change that leaves the existing materials in a decay relationship.
That is not falsifying anything but one sample. I am talking about the same state past. That can't be falsified. Using the same state past belief to color how you view a rock is not falsifying anything.
That assumes a same state far away universe, nothing more.
" "The carbon in the graphite is not as old as the rock. That can only ring a bell and require us to ask if we need to reconsider earlier studies."
Nearly 4,000-million years old samples from Greenland have been used to develop the dominant time line regarding the emergence of the earliest biosphere. The recent findings suggest the biosphere may have emerged millions of years later, a hypothesis that now demands a rigorous study, said Papineau.
"It could be that researchers in the field need to go back to Greenland to restudy these rocks and determine if the the carbonaceous materials are in fact as old as the metamorphosed rock itself," Papineau said.
As the planet evolved, rock and other matter was subjected to a range of temperatures that leave telltale signatures scientists can now study. The team's examination found that the rock samples were subjected to high-grade metamorphism. Yet the crystalline structure of the graphite present in the samples was not, leading scientists to conclude the matter infiltrated the rock at a later stage in time, though the exact timing is not clear at this point. "
The Archaeology News Network: Young graphite in old rocks challenges the earliest signs of life
dad said:Our record came down with careful assurances that it was true. It works, and the prophesies seal it with the unquestionable Hand of God.
Anyone can hand out assurances. But the prophecies you mention sound promising. Which prophecies are you referring to and how were they verified?
Bible prophesies. They cover kingdoms, kings, life and death and resurrection of Jesus, the captivities of Israel, etc etc.Anyone can hand out assurances. But the prophecies you mention sound promising. Which prophecies are you referring to and how were they verified?
Bible prophesies. They cover kingdoms, kings, life and death and resurrection of Jesus, the captivities of Israel, etc etc.
Nathan....if you are referring to your time wasting baseless doubts rambling thread, it wasn't that interesting. Hiding in shadows, speculating in a dark way about times that are not known, and grasping at silly conflicting interpretations of the bible for support is worthless. Straining at Nats might be your thing.
No no. Focus. We're going with the line of thinking that the natural laws were different in the distant past BECAUSE of the Bible. So, you need to show us why the Bible needs to be trusted.Bible prophesies. They cover kingdoms, kings, life and death and resurrection of Jesus, the captivities of Israel, etc etc.
But that is getting off topic. What you need to focus on is the laws of the universe. Prove they were the same or we will see that it is actually not known.
No no. Focus. We're going with the line of thinking that the natural laws were different in the distant past BECAUSE of the Bible.
No. That you need to look into yourself. The way many seem to approach that is by getting to know God, then they start realizing His word is cool.So, you need to show us why the Bible needs to be trusted.
You mentioned kingdoms, Jesus, and Israel. Now, what about them? What were the prophecies and how were they verified?
Nope. You doubted for doubting sake based on nothing. Is that fun?Oh, you mean the same sort of things we were discussing in that other thread before you scurried off without an answer?
I understand dad -- you have no answers, but still need to believe in the greatness of yourself and your ideas. You're just bitter because I debunked the prophecies and you couldn't say a single thing to counter it.
No. We are going with the line of the obvious. Science claims it knows stuff. It bases that claim on certain stuff. That stuff just had the stuffing knocked out of it. Get the cat back in the bag or admit defeat.
No. That you need to look into yourself. The way many seem to approach that is by getting to know God, then they start realizing His word is cool. Wow. Maybe google fulfilled bible prophesy. Something like 1/3 of the book is a done deal.
Nope. You doubted for doubting sake based on nothing. Is that fun?
What creationists fail to understand is that the laws governing the universe cannot be different and the universe remain in its form.
First of all, if you mean deep space you have no idea it seems what laws apply there, so you can't say what a change would do.What creationists fail to understand is that the laws governing the universe cannot be different and the universe remain in its form.
Any change (even the most minute) would render the universe unable to exist.
The bible does outline differences in nature in the future and past. The way God backed up the bible was by many works to many men. When science came along, to join the observations, it had a back seat. Very limited view. It also picked a seat facing away from God's stage, so if it wants something backed up, it needs to turn it's back around to where things can be seen. The action is not in the dark area where science chooses to operate. Better to look at evidences as adults, and with honesty.Concentrate, tiger. Don't lose focus now. You said the universe had different set of laws as the present because the Bible says so. Back it up, chief.
With all due respects and meaning no insult; That is a question that only one who has absolutely no knowledge of what is science would ask. No matter how you try to spin it, the laws governing the constants are the same everywhere in the universe!First of all, if you mean deep space you have no idea it seems what laws apply there, so you can't say what a change would do.
If you mean on the earth surface and area nearby, such as our solar system, I would not expect that present laws underwent a change to any great degree. What was changed was something else, that left us here like this, I would think.
Neither will they when the present
With all due beliefs you mean. That's all I have seen them offer. Name one constant...With all due respects and meaning no insult; That is a question that only one who has absolutely no knowledge of what is science would ask. No matter how you try to spin it, the laws governing the constants are the same everywhere in the universe!
With all due beliefs you mean. That's all I have seen them offer. Name one constant...
Earth concepts all...so?? What's next, angels on my shoulder?mass of particles, charge of particles, speed of light in a vacuum.
Earth concepts all...so?? What's next, angels on my shoulder?
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