The key difference between the Son, the Servant, and the Slave...

[Panthers]

In the hierarchy of this established universe, there are 5 levels of participation.

#1-Father
#2-Son
#3-Servant
#4-Slave
#5-Prop

Since, the Father is always on the throne, and the throne is reserved for him; all other participants in this universe can only be 2, 3, 4 or 5.
However, since the Son has already been declared, his seat is also reserved; therefore all other participants in this universe can only be 3, 4, or 5.

Now what is the difference between 3, & 4, (Servant and Slave)? The main difference between Servant and Slave, is diet.
Adam and Eve were created to be servants. As they were given commands. One of the few commands were of what to eat, Note the word shall! This is not voluntary to servants.

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,
which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree,
in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Genesis 1:29

After the flood, God gave forewarning and told Noah if he eats any meat with lifeblood in it, he will die; Note the word shall again..
But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Genesis 9:4-5

Noah passed with time, and so did all those in the Bible except for three men. Enoch, Elijah and Yeshua.
These 3 men escaped death and were taken up. John 18:36

Why did they escape up? Hebrews 11:5 2 Kings 2:11 Acts 1:11. John 18:36
Their diets! 1 Kings 19:6 Matthew 26:26

Out of these 3 men were 2 servants (Elijah, Enoch) and a Son (Yeshua). Everyone else is/was a slave and prop.

That is the key difference.

Now, since all true servants know this hierarchy, they can teach slaves who want to be servants, how it works.
It is very simple, as it is wired into us by our creator/master.

Deny the Father, and one will deny the Son,
Deny the Son, and one will deny the servant.
Deny the Servant, and one will become a slave.
Deny being a slave, and one will become a prop.

Therefore, when we accept Jesus Christ as the Son, and Alpha and Omega as the Father, we can position ourselves accordingly. However this positioning does not come with free choice into what we can consume. We are still servants and are still held accountable to God's commandments, not Noahs, or Moses. The Sons two Commandments were Love thy neighbour and love thy God. In order to love God, we must love him like before the fall, not after. This requires us to follow before fall commandments. Which there are also 2.

Hence, true servants remember the Father, the Son, and the Holy spirit, which is the servant and inside of all God's chosen.

Brendan lastname

 

[Panthers]

Slave and Prop world...

 

[Panthers]

Servant and Son World...

 

[Panthers]

Father's World

 

[Neogaia777]

In the hierarchy of this established universe, there are 5 levels of participation.

#1-Father
#2-Son
#3-Servant
#4-Slave
#5-Prop

Since, the Father is always on the throne, and the throne is reserved for him; all other participants in this universe can only be 2, 3, 4 or 5.
However, since the Son has already been declared, his seat is also reserved; therefore all other participants in this universe can only be 3, 4, or 5.

Now what is the difference between 3, & 4, (Servant and Slave)? The main difference between Servant and Slave, is diet.
Adam and Eve were created to be servants. As they were given commands. One of the few commands were of what to eat, Note the word shall! This is not voluntary to servants.

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,
which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree,
in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Genesis 1:29

After the flood, God gave forewarning and told Noah if he eats any meat with lifeblood in it, he will die; Note the word shall again..
But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Genesis 9:4-5

Noah passed with time, and so did all those in the Bible except for three men. Enoch, Elijah and Yeshua.
These 3 men escaped death and were taken up. John 18:36

Why did they escape up? Hebrews 11:5 2 Kings 2:11 Acts 1:11. John 18:36
Their diets! 1 Kings 19:6 Matthew 26:26

Out of these 3 men were 2 servants (Elijah, Enoch) and a Son (Yeshua). Everyone else is/was a slave and prop.

That is the key difference.

Now, since all true servants know this hierarchy, they can teach slaves who want to be servants, how it works.
It is very simple, as it is wired into us by our creator/master.

Deny the Father, and one will deny the Son,
Deny the Son, and one will deny the servant.
Deny the Servant, and one will become a slave.
Deny being a slave, and one will become a prop.
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Therefore, when we accept Jesus Christ as the Son, and Alpha and Omega as the Father, we can position ourselves accordingly. However this positioning does not come with free choice into what we can consume. We are still servants and are still held accountable to God's commandments, not Noahs, or Moses. The Sons two Commandments were Love thy neighbour and love thy God. In order to love God, we must love him like before the fall, not after. This requires us to follow before fall commandments. Which there are also 2.

Hence, true servants remember the Father, the Son, and the Holy spirit, which is the servant and inside of all God's chosen.

Brendan lastname

I mean, I'm not to say it's like gospel or anything, but there are some good points/parts in there, and the illustrations can be useful to that goal or aim.

God Bless.

 

[Panthers]

I mean, I'm not to say it's like gospel or anything, but there are some good points/parts in there, and the illustrations can be useful to that goal or aim.

God Bless.

It's about attitude and Christ mindedness.

When we remember the hierarchy we remember the master and ourselves.

Our errors will be obvious, the corrections simple; the truth, naked.

 

[Richard T]

May I ask if we are a joint heir with Jesus and children of God yet still a servant? Also what about angels, we were lower and now higher?

 

[Neogaia777]

May I ask if we are a joint heir with Jesus and children of God yet still a servant? Also what about angels, we were lower and now higher?

Matthew 10:24-25 - 24 “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25 It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master."

Philippians 2:5-8 - 5 "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross."

This is the mindset we should all have regardless of where we stand.

God Bless.

 

[Richard T]

Matthew 10:24-25 - 24 “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25 It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master."

Philippians 2:5-8 - 5 "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross."

This is the mindset we should all have regardless of where we stand.

God Bless.

Yes, Amen Of course we will never be like Jesus, but I sure am glad he gave my beauty for ashes, and took the sin so that I could have right-standing. Thanks for the scriptures.

 

[David Lamb]

In the hierarchy of this established universe, there are 5 levels of participation.

#1-Father
#2-Son
#3-Servant
#4-Slave
#5-Prop

Deny being a slave, and one will become a prop.


Brendan lastname

I'm just wondering what being a prop means in this context. In everyday language, at least hear in the UK, a prop is something which supports something else.

 

[Panthers]

May I ask if we are a joint heir with Jesus and children of God yet still a servant? Also what about angels, we were lower and now higher?

And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders:
and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Revelation 5:11

The number of the Angels now exceeds 7,778,742,049 and was reached April 18th, 2020 according to world population clock.
This number is significant in divine math and is the 49th number in the Fibonacci Sequence, dealing with the Golden ratio.
within the number was buried key Biblical significances alerting me back in 2012 that something was up. Such as a world ending.
What followed after were 2 dozen more fulfillments.

According to my math, we will always be servants to Christ, but brothers and sisters with each other. If our master calls us personally brother or sister, then we are ordained by him personally to be other.

As for the Angels, they are not supposed to be dying, as they are to be delivered like Enoch, Elijah and Yeshua.
Again I attribute this lack of delivery on diet. (Not supposed to be eating blood or flesh)

 

[Panthers]

I'm just wondering what being a prop means in this context. In everyday language, at least hear in the UK, a prop is something which supports something else.

A prop is both an example and support.
ex: He can prop up and build the Kingdom with disbelieving and departing slaves.

 

[David Lamb]

A prop is both an example and support.
ex: He can prop up and build the Kingdom with disbelieving and departing slaves.

Thanks for the reply. I assume in this case that the "prop" is an example to avoid. But how does an unbeliever prop up and build the kingdom of God?

 

[HarleyER]

In the hierarchy of this established universe, there are 5 levels of participation.

#1-Father
#2-Son
#3-Servant
#4-Slave
#5-Prop

Since, the Father is always on the throne, and the throne is reserved for him; all other participants in this universe can only be 2, 3, 4 or 5.
However, since the Son has already been declared, his seat is also reserved; therefore all other participants in this universe can only be 3, 4, or 5.

Now what is the difference between 3, & 4, (Servant and Slave)? The main difference between Servant and Slave, is diet.
Adam and Eve were created to be servants. As they were given commands. One of the few commands were of what to eat, Note the word shall! This is not voluntary to servants.

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,
which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree,
in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Genesis 1:29

After the flood, God gave forewarning and told Noah if he eats any meat with lifeblood in it, he will die; Note the word shall again..
But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Genesis 9:4-5

Noah passed with time, and so did all those in the Bible except for three men. Enoch, Elijah and Yeshua.
These 3 men escaped death and were taken up. John 18:36

Why did they escape up? Hebrews 11:5 2 Kings 2:11 Acts 1:11. John 18:36
Their diets! 1 Kings 19:6 Matthew 26:26

Out of these 3 men were 2 servants (Elijah, Enoch) and a Son (Yeshua). Everyone else is/was a slave and prop.

That is the key difference.

Now, since all true servants know this hierarchy, they can teach slaves who want to be servants, how it works.
It is very simple, as it is wired into us by our creator/master.

Deny the Father, and one will deny the Son,
Deny the Son, and one will deny the servant.
Deny the Servant, and one will become a slave.
Deny being a slave, and one will become a prop.
View attachment 353764


Therefore, when we accept Jesus Christ as the Son, and Alpha and Omega as the Father, we can position ourselves accordingly. However this positioning does not come with free choice into what we can consume. We are still servants and are still held accountable to God's commandments, not Noahs, or Moses. The Sons two Commandments were Love thy neighbour and love thy God. In order to love God, we must love him like before the fall, not after. This requires us to follow before fall commandments. Which there are also 2.

Hence, true servants remember the Father, the Son, and the Holy spirit, which is the servant and inside of all God's chosen.

Brendan lastname

We are either "slaves to sin" or "slaves to righteousness" (Romans 6). Christ purchased believers and we are His property (slaves to righteousness).

Forget the Greek and Hebrew (which uses slave). Quite frankly, I prefer to think of myself as a slave to Jesus Christ rather than His servant. A slave shows ownership. This means that I'm bought by Him and that He will keep and protect me as His property.

I can think of no other beautiful thought than this.

 

[Panthers]

Thanks for the reply. I assume in this case that the "prop" is an example to avoid. But how does an unbeliever prop up and build the kingdom of God?

Ex:The unbeliever works at the power plant, giving the believers not only power for medical services but access to the world via Internet technologies to spread the gospel.

Props are to be avoided, they get no reward but a stone with their last name on it.

Servant's get a stone with a new name... Revelation 2:17

 

[Panthers]

We are either "slaves to sin" or "slaves to righteousness" (Romans 6). Christ purchased believers and we are His property (slaves to righteousness).

Forget the Greek and Hebrew (which uses slave). Quite frankly, I prefer to think of myself as a slave to Jesus Christ rather than His servant. A slave shows ownership. This means that I'm bought by Him and that He will keep and protect me as His property.

I can think of no other beautiful thought than this.

The difference between slaves and servants is that one works in the fields while the other works inside the house.

Adam and Eve started as servants, and ended as slaves.
They were demoted for insubordination and made to till the fields..

Genesis 3:19​

 

[Richard T]

And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders:
and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Revelation 5:11

The number of the Angels now exceeds 7,778,742,049 and was reached April 18th, 2020 according to world population clock.
This number is significant in divine math and is the 49th number in the Fibonacci Sequence, dealing with the Golden ratio.
within the number was buried key Biblical significances alerting me back in 2012 that something was up. Such as a world ending.
What followed after were 2 dozen more fulfillments.

According to my math, we will always be servants to Christ, but brothers and sisters with each other. If our master calls us personally brother or sister, then we are ordained by him personally to be other.

As for the Angels, they are not supposed to be dying, as they are to be delivered like Enoch, Elijah and Yeshua.
Again I attribute this lack of delivery on diet. (Not supposed to be eating blood or flesh)

Thanks for the info on the angels. Here is the Greek word for joint heir from Rom 8:17 and what Spurgeon wrote on part of is. He seems quite adamant about our position in heaven.
"sugklēronómos; gen. sugklēronómou, masc. noun from sún <G4862>, together, and klēronómos <G2818>, an heir, a sharer by lot. One who participates in the same lot, a joint heir (Rom. 8:17). In Heb. 11:9, it speaks of Isaac and Jacob in their relation to Abraham; in 1 Pet. 3:7, of women as being joint heirs with their husbands of the grace of life; in Eph. 3:6, of the Gentiles being joint heirs with Israel (see Eph. 1:11)."
Complete Word Study Dictionary,

"Our right to it stands or falls with Christ’s right to the same inheritance. We are co-heirs; if He be truly an heir, so are we; and if He be not, neither are we. Our two interests are intertwined and made one, we have neither of us any heirship apart from the other; we are joint-heirs, Christ jointly with us, ourselves jointly with Christ. So, then, it follows that if there be any flaw in the will, so that it be not valid, if it be not rightly signed, sealed, and delivered, then it is no more valid for Christ than it is for us. If we get nothing, Christ gets nothing; if there should be no heaven for us, there is no heaven for Christ. If there should be no throne for us, there would be no throne for Him; if the promise should utterly fail of fulfilment to the least of the joint-heritors, it must also fail of accomplishment to our Lord Jesus Christ Himself.1 [Note: C. H. Spurgeon.]" Source: Romans 8:17 Joint-Heirs with Christ

 

[Panthers]

Thanks for the info on the angels. Here is the Greek word for joint heir from Rom 8:17 and what Spurgeon wrote on part of is. He seems quite adamant about our position in heaven.
"sugklēronómos; gen. sugklēronómou, masc. noun from sún <G4862>, together, and klēronómos <G2818>, an heir, a sharer by lot. One who participates in the same lot, a joint heir (Rom. 8:17). In Heb. 11:9, it speaks of Isaac and Jacob in their relation to Abraham; in 1 Pet. 3:7, of women as being joint heirs with their husbands of the grace of life; in Eph. 3:6, of the Gentiles being joint heirs with Israel (see Eph. 1:11)."
Complete Word Study Dictionary,

"Our right to it stands or falls with Christ’s right to the same inheritance. We are co-heirs; if He be truly an heir, so are we; and if He be not, neither are we. Our two interests are intertwined and made one, we have neither of us any heirship apart from the other; we are joint-heirs, Christ jointly with us, ourselves jointly with Christ. So, then, it follows that if there be any flaw in the will, so that it be not valid, if it be not rightly signed, sealed, and delivered, then it is no more valid for Christ than it is for us. If we get nothing, Christ gets nothing; if there should be no heaven for us, there is no heaven for Christ. If there should be no throne for us, there would be no throne for Him; if the promise should utterly fail of fulfilment to the least of the joint-heritors, it must also fail of accomplishment to our Lord Jesus Christ Himself.1 [Note: C. H. Spurgeon.]" Source: Romans 8:17 Joint-Heirs with Christ

Pilate answered, Am I a Jew?
Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me:
what hast thou done?
Jesus answered,
My kingdom is not of this world:
if my kingdom were of this world,
then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
but now is my kingdom not from hence.
John 18:35-36

Conclusion, the entire world except for 2, are slaves in the kingdom. (not good)
These are the two witnesses; who are the two servants left. (The Holy One, and the Watchman).

And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven.. KJV
Daniel 4:23

 

[Richard T]

Pilate answered, Am I a Jew?
Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me:
what hast thou done?
Jesus answered,
My kingdom is not of this world:
if my kingdom were of this world,
then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
but now is my kingdom not from hence.
John 18:35-36

Conclusion, the entire world except for 2, are slaves in the kingdom. (not good)
These are the two witnesses; who are the two servants left. (The Holy One, and the Watchman).

And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven.. KJV
Daniel 4:23

Seems his kingdom not being of the world implies he has no servants. Children of God does not imply servanthood or slave status. On earth we share in his sufferings, and slave status might be correct during this time, but our spirit witnesses that we are Children of God, I think acknowledging that our glorified body is to come. So on earth we have a sinful body, changed and saved by a future glorified body, (future tense) a mind that is being renewed from which we work out our salvation withe fear and trembling (present tense) and a human spirit that is sealed by the holy spirit, already saved. (Past tense). I am happy though however it shakes out. Rather be a slave or servant in heaven than reside in hell.

 

[Panthers]

Seems his kingdom not being of the world implies he has no servants. Children of God does not imply servanthood or slave status. On earth we share in his sufferings, and slave status might be correct during this time, but our spirit witnesses that we are Children of God, I think acknowledging that our glorified body is to come. So on earth we have a sinful body, changed and saved by a future glorified body, (future tense) a mind that is being renewed from which we work out our salvation withe fear and trembling (present tense) and a human spirit that is sealed by the holy spirit, already saved. (Past tense). I am happy though however it shakes out. Rather be a slave or servant in heaven than reside in hell.

We are not children of God until our master calls us personally, child/brother/sister/mother.
How many mothers did Jesus have? 1 or are all mothers on earth his?

Thinking all in the kingdom of God are children of God is an error.
Demons and vipers also exist in the kingdom, they are not children.

Our Glorified body will be inorganic, just as the glorified resurrected body of Christ was inorganic.
(is why many did not recognize him at first) as there were two bodies, organic and inorganic.

The body and the world are perfect, it is the mind and attitude of men which is poison.
Correction and healing comes from God's direct word, not the apostles inspired word.

We, like all on earth; start from death and earn our ticket upstairs.
the biggest step is going from slave to servant via dietary and Biblical reasoning.

All human spirits are attached to an individual star system (macro machine)
Spirit is projected out from stars into humanoids (medio machines) for service and/or judgement.

And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him
which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:28