The Jews,Is there any other way???

There is a second way -- to be perfect and sinless before God. The concept of original sin makes this impossible for us though.

Yes Satan was there, but the choice was the same then as it is now. Do I give up power prestige and influence for Jesus.

My few Jewish friends that are also Christian agree than many Rabbi's know the truth about Christ but stay silent because of the personal cost to them to confess Christ as the Messiah. I do not have first hand knowlwdge that this is true but have heard it from numerous secondary sources.

The people we know now as the Jews are the descendents of those first century Jews who refused to believe in Christ as the Messiah. And many, many orthodox Jews know Christ to be the Messiah, but refuse to acknowledge them because they do not want to go against tradition.

They won't accept him as anything more than a prophet,when he died for them(as well as everyone else)!!!

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My few Jewish friends that are also Christian agree than many Rabbi's know the truth about Christ but stay silent because of the personal cost to them to confess Christ as the Messiah. I do not have first hand knowlwdge that this is true but have heard it from numerous secondary sources.

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Before Jesus can return, the Jews will have to acknowledge that Jesus was the Messiah and proclaim Him as such. That is why satan is so set against the Jews because they are key to the return of Christ. In his mind, if there are no Jews then Christ cannot return, so he is set on a course to destroy the Jews.

Thankfully, God's promises and covenants are true and satan will not achieve this goal.

I was talking to a friend about this topic and he told me that he had been speaking to some Messianic Rabbis and he asked them what it would require for the Jews to accept Jesus as Messiah. His answer was that it required just one man to proclaim Him as such - the Chief Rabbi of Israel. This being because the Jews are leadership focussed and accept what their leaders proclaim. With this proclamation, the end time prophecies will begin to be fulfilled.

I was talking to a friend about this topic and he told me that he had been speaking to some Messianic Rabbis and he asked them what it would require for the Jews to accept Jesus as Messiah. His answer was that it required just one man to proclaim Him as such - the Chief Rabbi of Israel. This being because the Jews are leadership focussed and accept what their leaders proclaim. With this proclamation, the end time prophecies will begin to be fulfilled.

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This goes along with what I see in scripture. Are you saying that Israel needs to do national repentance? Will this occur after the removal of the body of Christ? I believe that all end time prophecies from the O.T. right on through the 4 gospels into Acts relate to Israel. That the prophetic clock stopped when Israel was set aside in unbelief. I mean, God was dealing with Israel during the Acts period right? But began to change the program when Israel's leaders continued to reject what was offered and raised up Paul to proclaim a different program (body of Christ) while God was placing Israel in unbelief so that he could have mercy upon all. It is my belief, along with others, that Israel (as a nation) in early Acts was to bring Christ to the gentile nations and then the Great Tribulation would have started. But, it did not go that way.

Mr. John

Originally posted by Hector Medina

Is the only way to enter heaven is to accept christ as your savior so you don't have to go to hell to pay for your sins???
Since the Orthodox Jews reject Lord Jesus Christ..................

It seems like Satan was present the woletime that Christ was rejected.
Just because he was the son of a carpanter and not rich as the Jews had visioned the messiah then had the authorities execute him ...........its sad that Gods own chosen people did this,they disobeyed God!

They won't accept him as anything more than a prophet,when he died for them(as well as everyone else)!!!

In Christ,

Hector



Eph writes...

First off we don't "accept" Jesus...because HE is the one who comes looking for US...not us looking for him...He is the shepherd we are the sheep..!

BETTER would be "when Jesus called me to him and I responded"...Remember..We don't go to hell ....because we FAITH Jesus Christ....not because we accept him..!

FAITH is the key..!

..Reguarding the Jews...God will deal with them during the Rev days and the Millenium...! What he does with those who don't FAITH him now today as Lord and Savior....is clear.....Hey only 8 people went into the Ark...God didn't worry too much about all the others that didn't did he....?

The fate of the Jews today who refuse Christ Jesus....no matter how "good" they think they are OR how "chosen" they may think they are...is not a good one...!

Hector Medina said:

Is the only way to enter heaven is to accept christ as your savior so you don't have to go to hell to pay for your sins???
Since the Orthodox Jews reject Lord Jesus Christ..................

It seems like Satan was present the woletime that Christ was rejected.
Just because he was the son of a carpanter and not rich as the Jews had visioned the messiah then had the authorities execute him ...........its sad that Gods own chosen people did this,they disobeyed God!

They won't accept him as anything more than a prophet,when he died for them(as well as everyone else)!!!


In Christ,

Hector

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The reason for this is because we dont believe in a man that walked the earth pretending to be God. If someone did this in 2004...they would be called a false Prophet, right?? Jesus is nothing but a man who wanted so badly to be God. He led people into thinking He was God. There is only ONE God not two. But if you want to worship Jesus..that's your problem. But we wont.

Jesus just made His own religion which is Christianity. Just like Budda made His own religion and all the other "earthly gods" people believe in.

Martin said:

Before Jesus can return, the Jews will have to acknowledge that Jesus was the Messiah and proclaim Him as such. That is why satan is so set against the Jews because they are key to the return of Christ. In his mind, if there are no Jews then Christ cannot return, so he is set on a course to destroy the Jews.

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I think this is a confusion. These conditions do not have to be met for Christ to come and judge the world.