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The Implementation of the World Wide Sunday Law.

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The Mark of the Beast will be implemented and the whole world will follow after the Beast in its work or setting its mark, in a world wide law. The Bible declares that before the coming of the Lord, Satan will work "with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness;" and they that "received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved," will be left to receive "strong delusion, that they should believe a lie."

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

In the issue of the Mark of the Beast the world will be divided into two great classes, those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and those who worship the beast and his image and receive his mark. We know that the apostate church and the power of the state will unite in power to compel "all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond" , to receive "the mark of the beast," yet the people of God will not receive it.

Revelation 13:11-16
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

As the seal of God, the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom, and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the Mark of the Beast. But the refusal of a small minority, a remnant, to yield to the popular demand will come to a head. It will be urged that the few who stand in opposition to this day of the apostate church and a law of the state ought not to be tolerated; that it is better for them to be taken out than for all the nations to be thrown into confusion and their interpretation of the rule of law be ignored. The same argument was brought against Christ by the "rulers of the people." "It is expedient for us," said Caiaphas, "that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not."

John 11:49-50
49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

So how do church and state unite to bring this world wide law of Sunday keeping, well, its already in the works. The UN is pushing it as well as the apostate church and the “new” commandments could include a worldwide day of rest….as in, a Sabbath, yet it would be on another day.

The Pope is at the center of this idea and his Laudato Si Treaty is at the center of this movement, with the world governments being brought together in agreement. In October 2021, Pope Francis and other religious leaders made a joint appeal for leaders of COP 26 to take concrete steps to save the planet from a climate crisis. These steps support the Paris Agreements and Agenda 2030, whose goals are to reduce carbon emissions at any cost. They went forward with the advocation of the creation of a Green Sabbath, where each person is required to “give the environment a break one day a week”, and Climate Sundays where they preach the religion of climate change.

Here is what they want to do..
"One day a week, minimize the need for more goods, minimize the use of natural resources, minimize the emission of carbon dioxide and other pollutants.

The Sabbath is said to be a foretaste of the world to come (Babylonian Talmud, Berakhot 57b). Literally. If you care about our future, about your well-being, observe a real sabbath day of rest. It helps cultivate community, self-discipline, inner calm and contentment. One powerful weapon in the fight against environmental deterioration and climate disaster may just be an age-old spiritual technology"

Green Sabbath Project

The Green Sabbath Project believes that our sabbath days must become a time of active avoidance of environmental vandalism, a time for programmatic congregational and individual reflection on how we are undoing creation. Our main focus is education and advocacy. We feature readings, crowd-sourced li

And we see the power behind it..
"In January 2024, a Washington Post article in the climate section, titled “Why Reviving a 2,600-Year-Old Spiritual Practice Made My Life Better,” pointed to Pope Francis’ argument about “Sunday in his 2015 ‘Laudato Si,’ an encyclical about caring for the natural world. Not resting is not just bad for the soul, he says, but it’s also bad for the Earth. The constant drive to produce and consume more is squandering natural resources, and it prevents us from treating the living world, and one another, with dignity and respect. The Sabbath forces us to consider how we spend all our days.

A Green Sabbath—or God’s Sabbath?

Some propose a weekly rest day to help heal the earth. This sounds noble, but could it end up being just another counterfeit for God’s seventh-day Sabbath?

“Sunday, like the Jewish Sabbath, is meant to be a day which heals our relationships with God, with ourselves, with others and with the world.”

Pope Francis was expanding on the Catholic teaching that Sunday is sacred, trying to give it new meaning for a modern audience in a secular age."
 

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Here is more to go over....





 
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Reddogs, greetings. You may recall in previous post that I have stated, that I am and have been a first generation Adventists for over forty years. I believe we are correct in our doctrinal teachings, and the little horn of Dan. 7, is the papacy. However, believe we are incorrect in our understanding of many of Revelations prophecies. Especially Rev. 13, the two beast and the Mark, which will cause the death of millions who misunderstand it. You have put up your post to prove our position. I will post three links to three short video, (1 hr., 20 min., total) giving seven prophetic reasons why our interpretation of this chapter goes against it's plan teachings. This will be as difficult for you, as it is for Catholics to realize that the Little horn of Dan., 7 is the papacy.

A prayer for strength to accept the truth goes out to or all who view these videos.




 
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I watched the first video and agree with the speaker about the "mark" of the beast being a χάραγμα - an etching, a scratch.
He lost me when he claimed the second beast was the Devil incarnate as the Devil is referred to in those chapters of Revelation as a dragon, not a beast.
My personal opinion is the second beast is the false prophet who will advocate worship of the first beast.
 
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Reddogs, greetings. You may recall in previous post that I have stated, that I am and have been a first generation Adventists for over forty years. I believe we are correct in our doctrinal teachings, and the little horn of Dan. 7, is the papacy. However, believe we are incorrect in our understanding of many of Revelations prophecies. Especially Rev. 13, the two beast and the Mark, which will cause the death of millions who misunderstand it. You have put up your post to prove our position. I will post three links to three short video, (1 hr., 20 min., total) giving seven prophetic reasons why our interpretation of this chapter goes against it's plan teachings. This will be as difficult for you, as it is for Catholics to realize that the Little horn of Dan., 7 is the papacy.

A prayer for strength to accept the truth goes out to or all who view these videos.




SOP warns us...'We have far more to fear from within than from without. The hindrances to strength and success are far greater from the church itself than from the world. Unbelievers have a right to expect that those who profess to be keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, will do more than any other class to promote and honor, by their consistent lives, by their godly example and their active influence, the cause which they represent. But how often have the professed advocates of the truth proved the greatest obstacle to its advancement! The unbelief indulged, the doubts expressed, the darkness cherished, encourage the presence of evil angels, and open the way for the accomplishment of Satan's devices'.—Selected Messages 1:122 (1887).
 
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I watched the first video and agree with the speaker about the "mark" of the beast being a χάραγμα - an etching, a scratch.
He lost me when he claimed the second beast was the Devil incarnate as the Devil is referred to in those chapters of Revelation as a dragon, not a beast.
My personal opinion is the second beast is the false prophet who will advocate worship of the first beast.
John, I prayerfully encourage you to watch the other two videos, less than a hour. In those more prophecy is brought in, in support that the second beast is Satan.
 
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SOP warns us...'We have far more to fear from within than from without. The hindrances to strength and success are far greater from the church itself than from the world.
reddogs, this quote has two meanings, from either of our prospectives. I understand yours, but consider mine. From my experience, and yours here, refusing to consider the videos. Was it not the same with the early church refusing to consider the teachings of Christ, the Catholic church refusing to consider the discoveries of Martin Luther? In both cases the hindrances preventing those churches for advancement in progressive truths came from within, all having closed minds to consider what God was trying to reveal to them. Like them you have a choice, you can remain closed minded, believing that age makes our teaching on Rev. 13, truth, however, the passage of time doesn't make error into truth, regardless of the number of times the error is repeated.

If you are so sure we are correct in our teaching then you should have no fear in viewing the videos.
If they are misleading then you have a responsibility to all Adventists and the readers on this platform and me to show us the errors. I know from reading your post you are quite the scholar. However, it must be based on the Bible only.

SOP warns us: "There is no excuse for anyone in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people , is not proof that our ideas are infalljble. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation."
 
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reddogs, this quote has two meanings, from either of our prospectives. I understand yours, but consider mine. From my experience, and yours here, refusing to consider the videos. Was it not the same with the early church refusing to consider the teachings of Christ, the Catholic church refusing to consider the discoveries of Martin Luther?
The Website for Larry Wilson provides some clarity as for why he rejects the Dan 7 beasts as being indicated by the Rev 13 first beast. I don't find his suggestions very compelling when it comes to his suggestion that we ignore the fact that Rev 13 follows Dan 7 when it comes to those first four beasts.

It is more helpful in this forum format to actually state the reasons for a given POV rather than refer readers to a string of videos.
 
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The Website for Larry Wilson provides some clarity as for why he rejects the Dan 7 beasts as being indicated by the Rev 13 first beast. I don't find his suggestions very compelling when it comes to his suggestion that we ignore the fact that Rev 13 follows Dan 7 when it comes to those first four beasts.

It is more helpful in this forum format to actually state the reasons for a given POV rather than refer readers to a string of videos.
Bob, let me point out what Rev. 13, reveals. This beast comes up after one of the seven heads/papacy fatal wound has healed. That being the case you know that the healing began in 1929, under Lateran Treaty. It's complete healing is yet future, as all the parts are here but not yet assembled. That is the seven heads (seven religions of which the papacy is one, and the ten horns, major nations. This will be a coalition of religion, and civil powers, which the remnants of the four beast of Daniel 7, will be a part.

In the future before the first beast of Revelation 13 appears. God will release four of His angles to bring harm upon the earth. (Rev. 7:1-4) This harm is brought about by the first four trumpet judgement of chapter 8: 7-12. These horrific judgements is what will pave the way for the first beast of Rev., 13, to appear. Satan understands God's prophecies and he has been planing his final attack on the remnant, since he was unsuccessful during the 1260 years of (Rev. 12:14-17). Rev. 13, is revealing his plans to destroy them after God releases His four angles in the future.

Many Adventists, perhaps you as well, understand that Satan will appear on earth in human form and his fallen angles during closing events, but we have no prophecies to support our claim, why? Simple, all the prophecies that reveal his appearing we interpret as the papacy, which as yet the church fails to understand. Are we any different that those claiming the first day of the week is the Lord's sabbath, while the bible clearly teaches it is the seventh day?

Have you viewed the three short videos I posted?
If not I would encourage you to do so.
 
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Bob, Reddogs, it has been days since I posted the three short videos, giving seven reasons why the mark of the beast cannot be Sunday worship. I'm assuming you both have had the time and interest to know what they are, and have viewed them. Since neither of you have posted a response, you are most likely still in recovery of the shock of realizing our error on this issue. But we must except the facts revealed within prophecy, in place out faith in them, and not in a interpretation based on invalid hermeneutics.

I continue to pray that the Holy Spirit will strengthen you during this time.
 
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The Bible declares that before the coming of the Lord, Satan will work "with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness;" and they that "received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved," will be left to receive "strong delusion, that they should believe a lie."
 
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Reddogs, this is certainly true. But we as Adventists hold to several errors. Truth is that the first beast cannot be the papacy for it has far different features than the little horn of Daniel seven, a horn with eyes and mouth as a man. Too, this beast comes up out of the sea, after one of the heads (papacy) received it's fatal wound in 1798. You know that the wound began to heal in 1929 under the Lateran Treaty, what you fail to understand because you refuse to consider progress truth is, in the future when this composite beast rises from the sea having seven heads (religions) and ten horns which are ten kings who will be given power for an hour(a short time, Rev. 17:12) at which time the wound will be healed, because it will be a member of this coming world wide entity controlling the whole world. This coming entity is a mere agent of which Satan is manipulating.

The second beast, the Lamb like, is Satan! (Thee Antichrist, which Adventists think is the united States, another error) allowed by God to exit the spirit realm and appear on the earth in bodily form as did Christ, which is the delusion you reference. The image, which Satan sets up in honor of the first beast, will have just one religion, different than anything that exist, since they are diverse. Satan, masquerading as God will create a new one. These ten kings are the ten toes of Daniel 2:42-44, which the rock/Christ strikes and sets up His kingdom.

Rev.13, has 18 verses, the first ten speak of the first beast, the last eight speak of the lamb like/the Antichrist, the man of sin. Historicist have a invalid hermeneutic, in that they believe that a beast always represents a kingdom or entity. However, this is not valid, because the Lamb is Christ and the dragon is satan in Revelations story. Using invalid hermeneutics is but a private interpretation as it ignores God's natural laws.

The three video's give seven reasons why the mark cannot be Sunday Worship. Could it be that Satan is using your pride to keep you believing in these errors?
 
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BobRyan, and reddogs, brothers of the same faith. I believe I understand your resistance to most of my positions. Based on the fact that you hold strictly to our core teachings on Daniel, and Revelation.

You are upholding the teaching of the Great Controversy over prophecy, even though they can be better understood today, because of improved hermeneutics. But in so doing you go against Mrs. White’s counsel, with respect to her writings. You both know she has made it very clear that, “we are to base our faith on the Bible and the Bible only.”

I know Mrs. White upheld the historic interpretation that the first beast of Revelations 13 is the papacy, which originated in the early 14th century. Bear in mind that this interpretation does not factor in the identifying specifics that differ from those of the little horn of Daniel 7. It is a horn, coming out of ten horns, verses a beast having seven heads, ten horns, looking like a leopard, feet like a bear. coming up out of the sea. A horn verses a beast, no resemblance. The beast will receive power for 42 months, after the fatal wound on one of it’s heads/papacy is healed. The little horns was granted 1260 years which you both know, ended when it received it’s fatal wound in 1798. The wound will be healed when the first beast appears on the scene. Therefore, it is impossible for the little horn/papacy and the first beast of Revelation to be the same, as the wound has not yet been healed, therefore the beast has not yet appeared on the scene.

The head bearing a healed wound, being the papacy, had not yet received it’s fatal wound in the early 14th century when the interpretation took root. The wound wouldn’t be inflicted until another three centuries. With these facts in mind would you consider this interpretation good scholarship, since this specification was never factored in then, and still to this very day by our church?

You have heard it said, “age does not make error into truth.” If you continue to believe the little horn and the first beast of Revelation is the papacy, based on the GC, then are you not going against sister White's counsel, rejecting the more sure word of prophecy, and an improved understanding of God’s plans to bring the GC to and end?

We as Adventists have made the GC between Christ and the Papacy. By interpreting the prophecies explaining Satan’s plans to destroy the remnant, the plans of the papacy. Satan couldn’t be happier.
 
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You are deceive my brother, may you turn back from this path of destruction with God's help.
Happy Sabbath reddogs. Appreciate your response. Would not you better serve God, by pointing out the errors of the seven points I have made know to you as too why the first beast of Rev., 13 cannot be the papacy? After all you are a long time student of prophecy, therefore, I think you have a responsibility here.

Blessings
 
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When you turn from the truth, where is there to go, need to reconsider your choice you have made my friend.
reddogs, It was not easy for me to turn away from what I used to believe, and you still do, as truth. Your reluctance to even consider, and understand the progressive insights I'm posting, in your mind would imply you have doubts in the truthfulness of what you believe. You feel guilty and even ashamed of yourself for thinking it, therefore, you refuse to be a traitor. I truly get that.

In my case, I kept going back to Mrs. White's counsel a couple I'll share that allowed me to get pasted my guilt to consider what I know believe is progressive truth.

"There is no excuse for anyone in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people , is not proof that our ideas are infalljble. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation." (CW35)

" The time for the unfolding of special truth in relation to the closing scenes of this earth's history is during the last generations that shall live upon the earth." (2T692-3) Five generations have now passed since the death of Mrs. White, and you are still holding on to what she understood in her time, completely ignoring her counsel, at the expense of increasing your knowledge.

Do you not enjoy the technical advances we have today over those of fifty years past? Do you not understand that God will continue to reveal more of Himself and His plans in the passage of time? Or will you continue too refuse to move past the knowledge of closing events of the late 1800's early 1900's? That choice of course rest with you.

My experience has been that Revelation reveals far more than what Adventist know, should one make the bible their standard of faith only, and that prophecy makes more sense just as it reads.

Blessings Brother.
 
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