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God condemned those churches who allowed false doctrine into their churches, not sinners seeking salvation.
It's a little murky to me. The Lord says it's okay to divorce someone if they are guilty of unchastity (Matt 19:9, Matt 5:32), but it doesn't really say whether or not it's okay to remarry in that situation. Otherwise, I think it's best not to remarry, since I think that's what Jesus taught.Off subject, but what do you think about remarriage? Or should we have a new thread? Divorce today is so liberal, are they really eligible in the eyes of God to remarry? The last man I kissed was my husband 17 years ago, let alone remarry.
Thanks for mentioning this - I've only came back to this forum tonight after 7 years away, so will refresh myself on the FAQs shortly. It strikes me as both sad and bizarre if these talking points are forbidden. As loving Christians, I'd have thought it's within us to discuss things civilly and respectfully. Isn't that the whole purpose of forums? The "homosexuality" topic is probably the biggest topic (and arguably one of the most important we get right) of our time within our faith. Strikes me as crazy it would then be banned from discussion, certainly when no one has really been abusive. But there we go. I'll have a read of the FAQs and if I feel it's too oppressive or dictates what you can and can't say, I'll have to consider whether I continue to use this specific board. God bless
Yay! Glad to hear it.
To me the issue is a pastor going in front of the congregation and stating, or insinuating, that homosexuality is not a sin. That drives me up the wall.
It now says Christian! Yipee! I'm counted
(FYI, this is one of the few forums in CF where it is legitimate to defend the acceptability of homosexuality. About 60% of Methodists in the US consider it acceptable.)That is a problem. I'm not comfortable with homosexual and lesbian pastors. I wonder if a homosexual pastor could refrain from advocating for homosexuality.
I'm not talking about "sinner seeking salvation" I'm talking about "Christian" who approve, promote and practice sin themselves.
I think they should be defrocked if they refuse to stop doing it.It is a false doctrine, which disqualifies them as a teacher or pastor.
(FYI, this is one of the few forums in CF where it is legitimate to defend the acceptability of homosexuality. About 60% of Methodists in the US consider it acceptable.)
You seem to have had a particularly bad experience. I'm very sorry for your bad experience. But I'd say in general that Christian leaders who accept homosexuality as OK (whether they are themselves or not) don't talk about it all the time, nor attack members of the congregation who disagree. However I would expect them to say something about it from time to time, just as I would expect those who are opposed to say something from time to time.
I've actually never heard a sermon about it, and our church and its pastors are strongly in favor of accepting homosexuality as normal.
Discussion of the acceptability of homosexuality is legal in this forum but not in Controversial theology. This thread, however, doesn't seem like a useful place to do it.You can go to controversial forum and post there no problem , or this thread could be simply moved there .
God makes it very clear that homosexuality is a sin (Lev 18:22). I know from personal experience that immoral sex destroys lives. I try hard to resist temptation. I found it agonizing when my pastor gave his blessing to immoral sex (homosexuality). We have a new pastor now and he says he won't do that.(FYI, this is one of the few forums in CF where it is legitimate to defend the acceptability of homosexuality. About 60% of Methodists in the US consider it acceptable.)
You seem to have had a particularly bad experience. I'm very sorry for your bad experience. But I'd say in general that Christian leaders who accept homosexuality as OK (whether they are themselves or not) don't talk about it all the time, nor attack members of the congregation who disagree. However I would expect them to say something about it from time to time, just as I would expect those who are opposed to say something from time to time.
I've actually never heard a sermon about it, and our church and its pastors are strongly in favor of accepting homosexuality as normal.
God makes it very clear that homosexuality is a sin (Lev 18:22). I know from personal experience that immoral sex destroys lives. I try hard to resist temptation. I found it agonizing when my pastor gave his blessing to immoral sex (homosexuality). We have a new pastor now and he says he won't do that.
It is a huge issue in general, which is why I don't understand why threads on the topic end up in file 13.It's a huge issue in the United Methodist Church, as I mentioned in my first post. It was meant for United Methodists, though I'm enjoying reading all these responses.
People have varying experiences. I had a cousin who was married to someone with sexual identity issues who decided to try to be straight. I didn't talk with him about it, but he was a conservative Christian, so I assume he was doing what he was taught. The results weren't good. (I have personal reasons not to want to go into more details about the results.)God makes it very clear that homosexuality is a sin (Lev 18:22). I know from personal experience that immoral sex destroys lives. I try hard to resist temptation. I found it agonizing when my pastor gave his blessing to immoral sex (homosexuality). We have a new pastor now and he says he won't do that.
It is a huge issue in general, which is why I don't understand why threads on the topic end up in file 13.
Homosexual sex is worse than any other as it is physically as well a morally turning God's Creation on it's head .At the beginning there were always man and woman ,and there was no need for 'marriage' which is a formalised Relationship before God and community . There is never ,was never any such thing a homosexuality in God's creation .It is a creation of Satan to pervert God's plan for his people .At some point the pastor ought to mention that ALL forms of sexual immorality are destructive.
That's been my experience. Maybe there has been a policy change.They do???
I'm glad your pastor won't make you feel unwelcome. Particularly in mainline traditions such as Methodism, we should accept that disagreements happen, and accept those who disagree with us as fellow Christians.
Yes. Discussions of the ethics of homosexuality are only legal here, in the ELCA group, and in the Liberal group. People participating in the discussions are expected to abide by the rules of the group, which means that it isn't permitted to condemn the group for its acceptance of gays. Not that there's any hope of that happening.They do???
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