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You don't have to have access to nothing (a logical impossibility) to agree with Parmenides and Hume that from nothing, nothing comes. Nothing is a concept. That concept of the absence of everything, a universal negation.
No i don't, but that's not even relevant.Not my statements, but they could have been, except for the definitiveness.It's not that relevant.
Philosophy and the meaning of words i guess.And how did you (or the one who originally said it) come up with this definition?
Philosophy and the meaning of words i guess.
Do you have an alternative view on this?
Then you're apparently incapable of logical abstract or conceptual thinking.As causality is dependend on several ingredients being present, like a time dimension (causes happen BEFORE effects), I'ld say it is VERY VERY relevant.
Logic and reason, is what philosophy is based on, so you're just being silly.I like my definitions to be actually verifiable, instead of being dreamed up.
Always, it's logical reasoning....in the universe.
Exactly.Science tells us that physics, including causality, breaks down at T = 0.
Then you're apparently incapable of abstract of conceptual thinking.
Logic and reason, is what philosophy is based on, so you're just being silly.
Always, it's logical reasoning.
Exactly.
That's why we're asking what caused it.
As I understand it, nowadays physicists (and scientists generally) don't really talk of "causes" anyway. It's about finding explanatory models that best account for the data.
Logical reasoning does not lead to the conclusion that the physics of the universe apply outside the universe.
Correct, but we're not discussing physics.
Logical reasoning does not lead to the conclusion that the physics of the universe apply outside the universe.
It's okay.
Speak for yourself.Philosophy is useless here.
Aren't we discussing the origins of the universe? If we are, then that's physics.Correct, but we're not discussing physics.
The origins of the universe are not physical.Aren't we discussing the origins of the universe? If we are, then that's physics.
Correct, but we're not discussing physics.
The origins of the universe are not physical.
At T=0 physics come into play, so apparently the cause of it is not physical.
You could say "Occams razor" and most will understand.
No, at that point, our understanding of physics breaks down.The origins of the universe are not physical.
At T=0 physics come into play, so apparently the cause of it is not physical.
You could say "Occams razor" and most will understand.
But it's not about physics, it's about cause and effect, which are philosophical concepts, derived from logic and reason.No, at that point, our understanding of physics breaks down.
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