the great alchemy thread

[driewerf]

Here people can discuss alchemy.

 

[alexacker]

thanks to the human greed it helped us discover many new useful materials...

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Anyone who denies the transmutation of elements has declared war on science.

 

[Drathnor]

Anyone who denies the transmutation of elements has declared war on science.

Not really, its just difficult

Gold from Lead? sure, not that it would be profitable or easly done.

Cheaper to just buy or mine it

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Not really, its just difficult

Gold from Lead? sure, not that it would be profitable or easly done.

Cheaper to just buy or mine it

You are correct...

 

[shinbits]

my mom is a suit of armor because of alchemy.

breast feeding was a nightmare

 

[AV1611VET]

My dad had the Midas touch.

Everything he touched turned to mufflers.

 

[shinbits]

^ *rim shot*

 

[alexacker]

Anyone who denies the transmutation of elements has declared war on science.

Transmutations of elements through chemical reactions (alchemy) =/= Transmutation of elements through nuclear reactions

The first one is shown to be impossible, and the second unprofitable.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Transmutations of elements through chemical reactions (alchemy) =/= Transmutation of elements through nuclear reactions

The first one is shown to be impossible, and the second unprofitable.

"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong." -- Arthur C. Clarke, author, 1962

"For many centuries scholars thought that chemical elements were stable and could not be transformed. This is why the alchemists were regarded as dreamers, charlatans, or idiots. But in the year 1919 the great English physicist Rutherford sided with the alchemists and transmuted nitrogen into oxygen and hydrogen by bombarding it with helium. That was the day of the vindication of the alchemical doctrine of transmutation." -- Andrew Tomas, author, 1971

"Many times, physicists say that certain things are impossible – like physicists said that airplanes were impossible at one point. That’s because we didn’t understand the laws of physics very well." -- Michio Kaku, physicist, February 2008

 

[kharisym]

Does homeopathy share any similarities to alchemy? It follows a set of ridiculous 'laws' someone pulled out of their butts too.

 

[rockaction]

"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong." -- Arthur C. Clarke, author, 1962

"For many centuries scholars thought that chemical elements were stable and could not be transformed. This is why the alchemists were regarded as dreamers, charlatans, or idiots. But in the year 1919 the great English physicist Rutherford sided with the alchemists and transmuted nitrogen into oxygen and hydrogen by bombarding it with helium. That was the day of the vindication of the alchemical doctrine of transmutation." -- Andrew Tomas, author, 1971

"Many times, physicists say that certain things are impossible – like physicists said that airplanes were impossible at one point. That’s because we didn’t understand the laws of physics very well." -- Michio Kaku, physicist, February 2008

The quote mines...so...annoying...

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

The quote mines...so...annoying...

Of course atheists think science quotes are annoying.

Shock and awe.

 

[rockaction]

Of course atheists think science quotes are annoying.

Shock and awe.

Michio Kaku is not talking about alchemy there. He's talking about the weird implications of quantum and string theories. If you lift that quote simply to say to everybody, "let's be open-minded about different hypotheses and theories", then that's fine. But you're using these quotes as your primary evidence that alchemy is a respected field of science, which is ridiculous.

And nuclear physics =/= alchemy.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Michio Kaku is not talking about alchemy there. He's talking about the weird implications of quantum and string theories. If you lift that quote simply to say to everybody, "let's be open-minded about different hypotheses and theories", then that's fine.

He's talking about possible and impossible.

His implication is that pseudoscientists who don't believe in alchemy, who deny the empirical fact that chemical elements can be alchemically transmuted, and who have declared war on science, do not understand the laws of physics.

But you're using these quotes as your primary evidence that alchemy is a respected field of science, which is ridiculous.

I never said pseudoscientists who deny the alchemical transmutation of elements respect science...

And nuclear physics =/= alchemy.

Alchemy made claims and predictions that were confirmed by nuclear physics.

By denying alchemy, you have declared war on science and physics.

 

[rockaction]

He's talking about possible and impossible.

He writes books about time travel, parallel universes, and aliens. That's what he's talking about. But in a broad scope, yes, he's talking about possible and impossible. Just because nothing is impossible doesn't mean that everything is possible.

His implication is that pseudoscientists who don't believe in alchemy, who deny the empirical fact that chemical elements can be alchemically transmuted, and who have declared war on science, do not understand the laws of physics.

He says nothing about alchemy.

I never said pseudoscientists who deny the alchemical transmutation of elements respect science...

Alchemy made claims and predictions that were confirmed by nuclear physics.

By denying alchemy, you have declared war on science and physics.

You're a funny kid!

 

[Spacewyrm]

He writes books about time travel, parallel universes, and aliens. That's what he's talking about. But in a broad scope, yes, he's talking about possible and impossible. Just because nothing is impossible doesn't mean that everything is possible.

Actually, if nothing is impossible, then that does, in fact, mean that everything is possible. If anything isn't possible then it is false that nothing is impossible.

 

[laconicstudent]

Oh look. A thread on nuclear transmutation.

 

[Bushido216]

You're a funny kid!

Ssshhh... can't you see that Agnonaces is blowing your mind?

Your mind is blown away.

I hope you can handle this.

I hope.

 

[Cabal]

Yes, if we can establish (yet again) that AoS doesn't actually know what alchemy is and move on, that would be swell.