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If a scientific theory doesn't include God, is that what you would call an "atheistic explanation"?Yes --- I'm not interested in an atheistic explanation of anything --- so long as there's a theistic one available.
Nothing hacks me faster than reading an article that starts out, "50 million years ago..."
It's really sad watching someone as intelligent as yourself, intentionally closing yourself off from the real world. How disappointing. What a waste of intellect.Out of the question.
If a scientific theory doesn't include God, is that what you would call an "atheistic explanation"?
It's really sad watching someone as intelligent as yourself, intentionally closing yourself off from the real world. How disappointing. What a waste of intellect.
so, the theory of gravity is an atheistic theory because it doesn't say we're pulled down to earth by the noodly appendage of the flying spaghetti monster?Yes --- more appropriately though, it would be a "no-God explanation."
Thanks for the compliment, but I'm using my talents for the Lord.
The pay may not be as good as yours, but the retirement plan is dynamite!
so, the theory of gravity is an atheistic theory...
Does that mean the theory doesn't mention God, or does the theory have to state that no God caused the event/occurrence/phenomenon?Yes --- more appropriately though, it would be a "no-God explanation."
Oh really? What kind of feedback are you getting?The pay may not be as good as yours, but the retirement plan is dynamite!
Does that mean the theory doesn't mention God, or does the theory have to state that no God caused the event/occurrence/phenomenon?
So, the reason geologists haven't found the flood layer, is because they haven't added an understanding of God to the equation. Are there any creationists out there, who having an understanding of God, discovered the flood layer?It would be "no-God understood".
What scientific theory claims there was no global flood? Please direct me to a source.no global Flood
What scientific theory claims there was no direct intervention from God? Please direct me to a source.no direct intervention from God
One which hundreds of millions (at least) of christians worldwide are happy to accept.It would be "no-God understood".
For instance, all of those pictures that Thaumaturgy shows me are nice, but when the interpretations of those pictures automatically assume such things as:
Then to me, it's an atheistic explanation.
- hundreds of thousands of years of history
- no global Flood
- no direct intervention from God
Cartoons?
I guess that proves it... this is a Poe.
This is not an assumption, it is inferred from the evidence.It would be "no-God understood".
For instance, all of those pictures that Thaumaturgy shows me are nice, but when the interpretations of those pictures automatically assume such things as:
hundreds of thousands of years of history
This is not an assumption, it is inferred from the evidence.no global Flood
Yes! You actually got this one right! It is a necessary assumption, but one science is forced to make, since it is restricted to natural or physical laws only.no direct intervention from God
LOL! A very good question! Any answers?So, the reason geologists haven't found the flood layer, is because they haven't added an understanding of God to the equation. Are there any creationists out there, who having an understanding of God, discovered the flood layer?
I have to disagree with you on this one. Scientists do make the assumption thatWhat scientific theory claims there was no direct intervention from God? Please direct me to a source.
Read the thread through. The Grand Canyon was one of the first topics addressed. It was discussed on the second page for your god's sake.The Grand Canyon was formed quickly at the end of the flood.
The sediment layers couldn't have been formed over long expanses of time since each layer consists of a simple and unique recipe of constituent materials. there isn't any way to explain how over an eon of time only a unique recipe of constituent materials was deposited.
The specific gravity of the materials in a sedimentary layer isn't the dominant force applied. It is only dominant in still water.
The dominant force in flowing water is particle size.
Formations like the Grand Canyon can be formed very quickly in a global flood enviroment. Flow rates, and vectors can change rapidly to cause every manner of deposition found.
The surface of the earth isn't uniform. It is instead highly complex with massive variation world wide from locale to locale. This is what a global flood would do.
Joman.
Do you have any evidence do back this statement up?Formations like the Grand Canyon can be formed very quickly in a global flood enviroment. Flow rates, and vectors can change rapidly to cause every manner of deposition found.
Is there anything that a global flood would not be capable of doing? In other words, is there any geological feature we should not see in the geological record if it is do to a global flood, or are you just going to claim that a global flood can explain anything?The surface of the earth isn't uniform. It is instead highly complex with massive variation world wide from locale to locale. This is what a global flood would do.
This is far from true. I suggest you read Grand Canyon Geology by Buess and Morales for some accurate information. You can get some of it HERE.The Grand Canyon was formed quickly at the end of the flood.
The sediment layers couldn't have been formed over long expanses of time since each layer consists of a simple and unique recipe of constituent materials.
Actually most of the depositional environments are pretty well understood though there are certainly questions about some specific layers.there isn't any way to explain how over an eon of time only a unique recipe of constituent materials was deposited.
Nonsense. You need to study the actual rocks there to see that they could not have been deposited in this way. Thaumaturgy has been into this lately and may have something to say. I don't have time right now but I would like to ask you how animal tracks and burrows got preserved in layers deposited by water that was rapidly changing its speed and direction of flow over a vast area.The specific gravity of the materials in a sedimentary layer isn't the dominant force applied. It is only dominant in still water.
The dominant force in flowing water is particle size.
Formations like the Grand Canyon can be formed very quickly in a global flood enviroment. Flow rates, and vectors can change rapidly to cause every manner of deposition found.
And how would it do this without leaving any evidence? And while we are at it, how did this flood deposit massive salt layers like the Silurian salts we see in Michigan?The surface of the earth isn't uniform. It is instead highly complex with massive variation world wide from locale to locale. This is what a global flood would do.
Joman.
Formations like the Grand Canyon can be formed very quickly in a global flood enviroment. Flow rates, and vectors can change rapidly to cause every manner of deposition found.
Floods don't form huge limestone layers. They don't form eolian deposits complete with scorpion and spider tracks.[/quopte] As seen the Coconino Sandstones of course.
I posted a picture of one on page 8 of this very thread. I have never heard any YEC explain how a flood could have produced such a structure.They don't produce gooseneck meanders.
The Grand Canyon was formed quickly at the end of the flood.
The sediment layers couldn't have been formed over long expanses of time since each layer consists of a simple and unique recipe of constituent materials. there isn't any way to explain how over an eon of time only a unique recipe of constituent materials was deposited.
The specific gravity of the materials in a sedimentary layer isn't the dominant force applied. It is only dominant in still water.
The dominant force in flowing water is particle size.
Formations like the Grand Canyon can be formed very quickly in a global flood enviroment. Flow rates, and vectors can change rapidly to cause every manner of deposition found.
The surface of the earth isn't uniform. It is instead highly complex with massive variation world wide from locale to locale. This is what a global flood would do.
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