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he's right though God says the whole bible is God breathed so its true if anything is not true God is a liar and we have no hope
Non-factual is not the same as dishonest
that's because God himself says X is true so if it isn't that makes him a liar which is a sin and God cant sin. So X has to be true
I wish you'd get the hang of using quotes.Cow:>>The "literal" interpretation of Genesis ignores the fact that the original language is lost to mankind and the earliest manuscripts themselves are translations made by humans and humans cannot be perfect (the lone exception being Christ). It also ignores what is known about ancient Jewish thinking and tradition. It looks at scripture through modern eyes, not those of the time.
Dear Cow, Your view supposes that God is unable to speak to us today through His Holy Word. I also find that ancient thinking and tradition is one of the problems which faces us today. The ancient theology does NOT agree with science nor history and that leads many people to conclude that the Bible is wrong.
I believe God has correctly told us His Truth in Scripture and that Truth agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind. The problem is with the ancient interpretation which does not agree with science, history, nor scripture. When we have the correct interpretation of Genesis, it's easy to see that God's Truth is the Truth in every way. It's PROOF of God, since only God could have written the scientific Truth 3k years ago.
In Love,
Aman
Jesus is the son of God. He knew the Scriptures were true because he was there. He verified that every word of the Scriptures were the inspired word of God, suitable for instruction. This is what is writtenin the Scriptures. To teach otherwise is false prophesy.Jesus used a lot of parables to teach religious truths, but i think that Jesus also believed that the various stories in the OT, like adam and eve and the fall, were historical events, and he probably would have accepted the creation account in genesis as well. that is what he would have been schooled in and there wasn't any alternative at that time, not for him anyway.
How can you make justify this statement of Angelican belief; "Their Bible is a true and inerrant record of Gods interaction in history and is also His unchanging and perfect Word to His people;" with your claim that the flood story was made up from the epic of Gilgamesh? Are you unsure of the belief which you personally espouse, or do you simply desire to annoy Christians by calling the Bible a work of plagerism and lies?if they used the epic of gilgamesh as a source, as i think they did, then they knew that the flood lasted 7 days, not 40. they knew that utnapishtim was a panthiest. they knew that the gods were ravenously hungry after the flood, and ate the sacrifice quickly. they knew that the gods were hacked off with the noise that the humans were making, not that people were all evil. etc etc.
so they made all that up. so it was deliberate, and dishonest.
Genesis tells us of the day of the Big Bang,
False. Genesis 1: 24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.the fact that every living creature was brought forth from the water,
that humans and natural man are NOT the same,
That GOD could.that you can make other humans from the tissue of one,
Not really, More so that there is a spiritual and a physical world.that we live in a Multiverse,
Nonsense.the formula for making humans,
how and when we changed from animal to human intelligence
Which letter of Paul is pseudo?
Dear Cow, If you think Scripture is not literal, then tell us HOW ancient, prescientific men knew the things I listed. They had NO way to know these things and get them scientifically correct, but Scripture is correct. Only God could have possibly known these things, and told them to us so long ago.
In Love,
Aman
How can you make justify this statement of Angelican belief; "Their Bible is a true and inerrant record of Gods interaction in history and is also His unchanging and perfect Word to His people;" with your claim that the flood story was made up from the epic of Gilgamesh? Are you unsure of the belief which you personally espouse, or do you simply desire to annoy Christians by calling the Bible a work of plagerism and lies?
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Aman wrote:
Bible scholars have, for decades if not centuries, realized that some of the pauline letters were not written by paul.
Basic categories that nearly all ministers going into seminary learn in their first year:
Authentic Pauline letters:
Romans
1 & 2 Cor
Philippians
Gal.
1st thes
philemon
Disputed letters (not clear if these are by paul or not)
Ephesians
Colossians
2nd Thes.
Not by Paul
1&2 Timothy
Titus
Also, Hebrews was included in the Canon because early Christians thought it was by Paul, but the letter itself doesn't claim to be by Paul. Scholars have no idea who wrote Hebrews. Even Martin Luther said that "only God knows who wrote Hebrews".
There are other threads about this. It's off topic here, so I encourage you to look into it yourself, especially from scholarly, reliable sources. Here is one site that summarizes views of many scholars:
Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers
Papias
I believe that God placed the books He wanted in the Canon. I accept all of them as God's Truth.
In Love,
Aman
i don't.
well what do you believe the bible is then
it's a collection of the history of the isralites (very pro isralite natually). prophets. some apocraphal stuff (daniel, revelation) apocraphal stuff which thankfully didn't make it into the bible, and the NT, most of which is reliable.
i think the bible has a continuous thread of inspiration, but there is stuff in there which isn't inspired, and legends, myths and distant memories.
genesis has recollections of the distant past, such as the tower of babel, and the time when the sons of God came to earth, but there is nothing much in the history, no real knowledge of the time before noah. that info needs to be got from examining the evidence around the world.
i think that human history goes back a lot further than 6000 years. as coal only has a trace reading of carbon 14, and yet a bell was found in coal, just shows that there is a mystery about the past, going back well before sumer, and india; a global civilisation, with one language and one writing.
that's what i think.
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