the flesh

[livingone]

When you get to heaven you will wish you were in hell.
They say that Jesus Christ is the body but really is a spiritual hell. Forbidden to want and forbidden to desire. Satan or the Great tempter casts desire into the flesh. Jesus Christ restrains desire, rendering the flesh into spirit. Do not depart from the flesh. The flesh is where you came from and the flesh is where you should want to return. The angels, whom are comprised of pure spirit, despise the flesh; and therefore bring the weak and tamed of Jesus Christ into the spirit--telling you that the flesh is corrupt, driving you away from it in order to place you in the body of Christ.
Reject membership from the body, it will be your everlasting spiritual hell. In Spirit, the world is a corpse since we have experience with the flesh, it our desire to return to it. Sell not your soul to Jesus Christ. He will rob you of your spirit to replace your spirit with his. You know very little about the spiritual world--that we do consist of spirit also, not just body and soul. The spirit is power, our own spirits are the justice that will be done to our souls--that we all have power to return to the flesh on our own accord. This is a spirtual matter since our spirits came into being because of our bodies. It is not the holy spirit that you sense; but your own spirit working through you.
The spirit of the body is the desire to return to the flesh. The ressurection is not done by the power of Christ but by your own accord. Let them not circumcise your spirits. This is how they rob you of power, saying that all things were made by Jesus Christ; and therefore all power and authority is handed to him after you sell your soul to him.
The power is within you.
You believe in the spirit of Jesus Christ but you don't believe in your own spirits. You have been robbed of your spirits because you are blind.
You believe in the resurrection but you do not believe that your spirit is strong enough to resurrect you.
You believe in the salvation of Christ but you do not believe in your own salvation.
Did not Jesus tell you that you were Gods? But you did not believe that power was within you to achieve your own resurrection.
If God is pure spirit then does not God dwell with you from the beginning--is not the spirit, that which makes you a god?

 

[MedicMan]

Friend, you really should consider a faith icon change

The flesh is where you came from and the flesh is where you should want to return.

For starters, where on earth did you pull this from? We come from the Lord, for the Lord creates us all, so why should we want to return to the flesh? It is the flesh that tempts us.

If God is pure spirit then does not God dwell with you from the beginning--is not the spirit, that which makes you a god?

The Holy Spirit does indeed dwell within us. However, God is not pure spirit - are you conversant with the Holy Trinity? God the Father, who created and sustains us all; Jesus, son of God, who died upon the cross so that we might have a chance to atone for our sins; and the Holy Spirit which dwells within all of us, enabling us to feel God within our lives. We are not gods, for there is only one God.

You believe in the resurrection but you do not believe that your spirit is strong enough to resurrect you.

What is this "your spirit" you speak of? We have a soul, given to us by the Lord, and we have the Holy Spirit which is directly part of God. The only way we can be resurrected is through the power of Christ Jesus - for He is the only one with the power to defeat death.

My my, you do sound almost like a Cathar

~MedicMan~

 

[livingone]

Friend, you really should consider a faith icon change



For starters, where on earth did you pull this from? We come from the Lord, for the Lord creates us all, so why should we want to return to the flesh? It is the flesh that tempts us.



The Holy Spirit does indeed dwell within us. However, God is not pure spirit - are you conversant with the Holy Trinity? God the Father, who created and sustains us all; Jesus, son of God, who died upon the cross so that we might have a chance to atone for our sins; and the Holy Spirit which dwells within all of us, enabling us to feel God within our lives. We are not gods, for there is only one God.



What is this "your spirit" you speak of? We have a soul, given to us by the Lord, and we have the Holy Spirit which is directly part of God. The only way we can be resurrected is through the power of Christ Jesus - for He is the only one with the power to defeat death.

My my, you do sound almost like a Cathar

~MedicMan~

Wrong your Lord did not create me. My mother and Father created me. However, I am the one who creates my soul.
Wrong. You've been robbed of your own spirit and replaced with the Holy Ghost. The triune God is a thief. They circumcise spirits. Or in other words rob you of your spiritual potential.

 

[MedicMan]

Wrong your Lord did not create me

My Lord? He is your Lord too, if you would but accept Him. Your icon says Christian - why, if you do not trust in Jesus' sacrifce?

My mother and Father created me. However, I am the one who creates my soul.

The soul is an integral part of you - so how can you say you both created yourself and were created by two others at the same time?

You've been robbed of your own spirit and replaced with the Holy Ghost. The triune God is a thief. They circumcise spirits. Or in other words rob you of your spiritual potential.

If that is true, then I am glad of it. Man is sinful, man is open to temptation, but the Holy Spirit is a way of reaching God, who protects us against these things. If I was ever in possession of my own spirit, then I am glad that I do not possess it any longer.
Why would I want to retain my own spirit, if I ever had one? The Lord is immesurably greater than me, so there is no way that this hypothetical 'own spirit' could surpass the Spirit of God.

~MedicMan~

 

[livingone]

My Lord? He is your Lord too, if you would but accept Him. Your icon says Christian - why, if you do not trust in Jesus' sacrifce?



The soul is an integral part of you - so how can you say you both created yourself and were created by two others at the same time?



If that is true, then I am glad of it. Man is sinful, man is open to temptation, but the Holy Spirit is a way of reaching God, who protects us against these things. If I was ever in possession of my own spirit, then I am glad that I do not possess it any longer.
Why would I want to retain my own spirit, if I ever had one? The Lord is immesurably greater than me, so there is no way that this hypothetical 'own spirit' could surpass the Spirit of God.

~MedicMan~

My mother and father created my flesh. But I have control over my soul.
Why do you believe that your spirit would be sinful, ye of little faith in yourself. If I make a mistake, in my spirit, can't I fix that mistake. There goes that Holy Ghost thinking he is better than me; but if we ever got into a fight with your lord and his ghost, I would win the war of words. Why? Because my spirit is stronger than his spirit and a hundred times more cleaner. I'll prove you wrong if you ask me.