The Fear of God

[joevberry3]

What are your opinions on the fear of God? So many people say Fear is really reverence. Is this true?
The Hebrew and Greek word for Fear are used lots of time in scripture. There are only a few times that it is reverence. All other times it is literally fear.
In the Old Testament it is Yare which means "to be afraid, stand in awe, fear." Used in Genesis 32:11
mora is used in Deut 4:24 and means fear or terror.
New Testament- Phobos is used in Acts 2:43, 19:17, 1 Cor. 2:3, 1 Tim 5:20, Hebrews 2:15 and several other places and means Fear, dread, terror.
In these cases we see its NOT reverence like so many teach and are taught. We are to fear God. Not fear in the meaning that we cant talk with him and pray with him. But fear in total disobedience to his word.
I hear so many people compare him to a Earthly Father, so in essence diminish the fact that we are to fear. They use the analogy that we shouldnt fear our dad or cause our kids to fear us. They too often fail to realize that God and earthly dads arent the same. God is a just God.
God Bless

 

[Andrew]

Firstly, you forget that in the NT, we have not been given a spirit of fear (fearing that God will wack us if we dont fulfill the laws which is true under OC) but a Spirit of adoption by which we cry out Abba Father!

Therefore:

1. Fear in the NT is reverence, and not the type of fear you described. Jesus translated "fear" of the Lord to "worship".

Mt 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Jesus quoted from the OT law, which actually says "Thou shalt FEAR...". But notice he changes it to "WORSHIP" to help us understnd what it means to FEAR God. It is thus a reverent awe for his love and goodness that makes you want to worship God. eg when he heals a loved one, you are in awe of his power and love, and can't help but praise and worship him -- that is the fear of the Lord.

2. Ro 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Abba is actually Aramaic for "papa" or "daddy". If you go to Israel, when you see toddlers running around and calling their daddy, they call out "Abba! Abba!" It is the equivalent of papa or daddy. Hence the term Daddy-God or Abba Father.

NJesus came to reveal God not as El Shaddai or Jehovah Jireh but a new name -- FATHER!

I hear so many people compare him to a Earthly Father, so in essence diminish the fact that we are to fear.

Then you must also fault Jesus, becos He compared God to earthly fathers too.

Mt 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

 

[Godz Marine]

First, our opinions don't amount to a hill of beans when it concerns Spiritual matters. We must center on what the Word truly says and not just a scripture here or a scripture there but the Word as a whole.

Second, in many of the threads you start you ask for opinions only to confront the opinions presented. ????? Apparently you ask for opinions, not in earnest but simply to begin a debate. If debate is your intended purpose then you should make it clear from the beginning.

What are your opinions on the fear of God? So many people say Fear is really reverence. Is this true?

fearn.

1. A feeling of agitation and anxiety caused by the presence or imminence of danger.
2. A state or condition marked by this feeling: living in fear.
3. A feeling of disquiet or apprehension.
4. Extreme reverence or awe, as toward a supreme power.
5. A reason for dread or apprehension.

As previously presented, if we have not been given a Spirit of fear but one of power, love, and a sound mind, why is it that we must feel that we are in some type of immenent danger from God? Does He really want us hiding in the corner trembling in our boots? Does He carry a baseball bat and waits for us to make a mistake?

We are to fear God. Not fear in the meaning that we cant talk with him and pray with him. But fear in total disobedience to his word.

Total diobedience is one thing, one should feel they are in some type of danger.


Now having fear in disobeying His Word is something else. That is not fearing God Himself as you imply. It is to have a Spirit of excellency. We must strive to fulfill the Word of God for our lives. We make mistakes and miss it. If one were to live in fear as you claim then this fear would consume them to the point of dread expecting immediate retribution. This fear, as defined above would put one into a state of obeying the Word simply to avoid any punishment. I don't think and scripture doesn't show nor imply this is what God wants from us. He wants us to serve Him willingly and joyfully. You imply that punishment awaits those who do not obey at all times.

Yes, we should fear in the sense that we have the mindset and heart desire to place the Word first and foremost in our lives. We are no longer under the law of the OT but under the law of mercy and grace. This mercy and grace, though not excusing us when we don't "fear" 100%, it does allow us time to repent, to get right. And yes, not fully following the Word can and does open us up to the curse as we read in Duet. 28.

God wants willing obedience, not subjective obedience. Subjective obedience is drive by one of or a combination of factors which were given within the definition in the beginning of my post. All except for number 4 are subjective, in other words they motivate one by fear to do something so as to avoid danger or something dreadful.

Willing obedience is what we find in number 4 above. It is an obedience that is motivated by desire to honor. God in not a dicator and thus happy with people who follow Him in a form of slavery. God is one whos desires to have our hearts, not our dread. He desires our faith not our complacentcy.

One can fear God as you have implied yet not love Him. Your implication of one "fearing" God simply is saying we are to comply His Word. This cannot be found in scripture. Our fear must be a fear of awe, one of reverence and a desire to honor or else we are nothing more than slaves to Him and His Word. I personnall have found by the Word I am not a slave and that I am and do go to Him freely of my own choice. My obedience is driven not by fear of retribution but by a desire to honor a Father who truly loves me. Perhaps a study into what the "Love of God" that we read about in the Bible truly is.

 

[mexican25]

God is the only person we should fear. Not anyoune else.

 

[mexican25]

God can take you life any time he wants.

 

[joevberry3]

Firstly, you forget that in the NT, we have not been given a spirit of fear (fearing that God will wack us if we dont fulfill the laws which is true under OC) but a Spirit of adoption by which we cry out Abba Father!

Therefore:

1. Fear in the NT is reverence, and not the type of fear you described. Jesus translated "fear" of the Lord to "worship".

Mt 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Jesus quoted from the OT law, which actually says "Thou shalt FEAR...". But notice he changes it to "WORSHIP" to help us understnd what it means to FEAR God. It is thus a reverent awe for his love and goodness that makes you want to worship God. eg when he heals a loved one, you are in awe of his power and love, and can't help but praise and worship him -- that is the fear of the Lord.

2. Ro 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Abba is actually Aramaic for "papa" or "daddy". If you go to Israel, when you see toddlers running around and calling their daddy, they call out "Abba! Abba!" It is the equivalent of papa or daddy. Hence the term Daddy-God or Abba Father.

NJesus came to reveal God not as El Shaddai or Jehovah Jireh but a new name -- FATHER!



Then you must also fault Jesus, becos He compared God to earthly fathers too.

Mt 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Can you show me in a Greek Lexicon where fear is always translated reverence in the New Testament?
Thanks

 

[joevberry3]

First, our opinions don't amount to a hill of beans when it concerns Spiritual matters. We must center on what the Word truly says and not just a scripture here or a scripture there but the Word as a whole.

Second, in many of the threads you start you ask for opinions only to confront the opinions presented. ????? Apparently you ask for opinions, not in earnest but simply to begin a debate. If debate is your intended purpose then you should make it clear from the beginning.



fearn.

1. A feeling of agitation and anxiety caused by the presence or imminence of danger.
2. A state or condition marked by this feeling: living in fear.
3. A feeling of disquiet or apprehension.
4. Extreme reverence or awe, as toward a supreme power.
5. A reason for dread or apprehension.

As previously presented, if we have not been given a Spirit of fear but one of power, love, and a sound mind, why is it that we must feel that we are in some type of immenent danger from God? Does He really want us hiding in the corner trembling in our boots? Does He carry a baseball bat and waits for us to make a mistake?



Total diobedience is one thing, one should feel they are in some type of danger.


Now having fear in disobeying His Word is something else. That is not fearing God Himself as you imply. It is to have a Spirit of excellency. We must strive to fulfill the Word of God for our lives. We make mistakes and miss it. If one were to live in fear as you claim then this fear would consume them to the point of dread expecting immediate retribution. This fear, as defined above would put one into a state of obeying the Word simply to avoid any punishment. I don't think and scripture doesn't show nor imply this is what God wants from us. He wants us to serve Him willingly and joyfully. You imply that punishment awaits those who do not obey at all times.

Yes, we should fear in the sense that we have the mindset and heart desire to place the Word first and foremost in our lives. We are no longer under the law of the OT but under the law of mercy and grace. This mercy and grace, though not excusing us when we don't "fear" 100%, it does allow us time to repent, to get right. And yes, not fully following the Word can and does open us up to the curse as we read in Duet. 28.

God wants willing obedience, not subjective obedience. Subjective obedience is drive by one of or a combination of factors which were given within the definition in the beginning of my post. All except for number 4 are subjective, in other words they motivate one by fear to do something so as to avoid danger or something dreadful.

Willing obedience is what we find in number 4 above. It is an obedience that is motivated by desire to honor. God in not a dicator and thus happy with people who follow Him in a form of slavery. God is one whos desires to have our hearts, not our dread. He desires our faith not our complacentcy.

One can fear God as you have implied yet not love Him. Your implication of one "fearing" God simply is saying we are to comply His Word. This cannot be found in scripture. Our fear must be a fear of awe, one of reverence and a desire to honor or else we are nothing more than slaves to Him and His Word. I personnall have found by the Word I am not a slave and that I am and do go to Him freely of my own choice. My obedience is driven not by fear of retribution but by a desire to honor a Father who truly loves me. Perhaps a study into what the "Love of God" that we read about in the Bible truly is.

Hi Greg. The forums here are for us to learn from other people, debate with each other, post our opinions and so forth. If you have a problem with me wanting to the learn the Bible, learn how other people intrepret things, i suggest you get on your knees and pray to God that he will get the hypocrisy out of you. You keep suggesting i need to do a study on Love. Isnt it funny how you tell me I need to quit preaching against OSAS, but yet you keep preaching Love to me? Isnt that very hypocrytical?
Yes in fact there are times in the NEW TESTAMENT that fear means FEAR! Not awe or reverence, but FEAR!
The Greek word(new testament) for fear/terror is phobo.
Check Matthew 28:4, and 1 Peter 2:17
Matthew 10:28 "do not be afradi of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in hell." (NIV)
Lu 12:4 But I say to you, my friends, Fear not those who kill the body and after this have no more that they can do.
Lu 12:5 But I will shew you whom ye shall fear: Fear him who after he has killed has authority to cast into hell; yea, I say to you, Fear *him*.
The Greek words here are phobos which means fear/terror NOT reverence.
Hebrew 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Notice im talking about people that arent in Christ. If we are in Christ, we have no need to fear God in the sense that everytime we mess up, he will cast out out. But we fear God in the sense that we want more of him, more of him in our lives.
And even in places that it means simply reverence, it is to show respect, show deference to. In Hebrews 12:28 it is caution, reverence.
How do we show respect? By obedience to him and his word.
God Bless

 

[Godzman]

Fear of God is more then reverence it is trusting in his soverienty and not misusing his name and making it common

 

[Jim B]

In The Chronicles of Narnia, C.S. Lewis has two girls, Susan and Lucy, getting ready to meet Aslan the lion, who represents Christ. Two talking animals, Mr. and Mrs. Beaver, prepare the children for the encounter. "Ooh," said Susan, "I though he was a man. Is he quite safe? I shall feel rather nervous about meeting a lion."

"That you will, dearie." said Mrs. Beaver. "And make no mistake, if there's anyone who can appear before Aslan without their knee's knocking, they're either braver than most or else just silly."

"Then isn't he safe?" said Lucy.

"Safe?" said Mr. Beaver. "Don't you hear what Mrs. Beaver tells you? Who said anything about safe? Of course he isn't safe. But he's good. He's the king, I tell you!"

\o/

 

[joevberry3]

Fear of God is more then reverence it is trusting in his soverienty and not misusing his name and making it common

Amen! Exactly!

 

[joevberry3]

In The Chronicles of Narnia, C.S. Lewis has two girls, Susan and Lucy, getting ready to meet Aslan the lion, who represents Christ. Two talking animals, Mr. and Mrs. Beaver, prepare the children for the encounter. "Ooh," said Susan, "I though he was a man. Is he quite safe? I shall feel rather nervous about meeting a lion."

"That you will, dearie." said Mrs. Beaver. "And make no mistake, if there's anyone who can appear before Aslan without their knee's knocking, they're either braver than most or else just silly."

"Then isn't he safe?" said Lucy.

"Safe?" said Mr. Beaver. "Don't you hear what Mrs. Beaver tells you? Who said anything about safe? Of course he isn't safe. But he's good. He's the king, I tell you!"

\o/

Very True Jim!

 

[Trish1947]

"There are so many scriptures that refer to the fear of the Lord. Thank God through Jesus Christ He has commanded His love toward us.




Jos 4:24 That all the people of the earth might know the hand of the LORD, that it [is] mighty: that ye might fear the LORD your God for ever.

2Ch 19:7 Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do [it]: for [there is] no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that [is] wisdom; and to depart from evil [is] understanding.

Psa 19:9 The fear of the LORD [is] clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD [are] true [and] righteous altogether.

Psa 25:14 The secret of the LORD [is] with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.

Psa 27:1 [[[A Psalm] of David.]] The LORD [is] my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD [is] the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

Psa 33:18 Behold, the eye of the LORD [is] upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;

Psa 36:1 [[To the chief Musician, [A Psalm] of David the servant of the LORD.]] The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, [that there is] no fear of God before his eyes.

Psa 103:17 But the mercy of the LORD [is] from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever.

Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD [is] to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

Pro 14:26 In the fear of the LORD [is] strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge.

Pro 14:27 The fear of the LORD [is] a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

Pro 15:16 Better [is] little with the fear of the LORD than great treasure and trouble therewith.

Pro 15:33 The fear of the LORD [is] the instruction of wisdom; and before honour [is] humility.

Pro 16:6 By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD [men] depart from evil.

Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:


Isa 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, [and] strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD [is] his treasure.

 

[Godz Marine]

JB,

Hi Greg. The forums here are for us to learn from other people, debate with each other, post our opinions and so forth. If you have a problem with me wanting to the learn the Bible, learn how other people intrepret things, i suggest you get on your knees and pray to God that he will get the hypocrisy out of you.

Asking for opinions so as to observe or learn is one thing. To ask for one's opinion then once it is given you debate it is something else. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone wanting to learn the Bible, it is just that one's motives should be made clear from the beginning. I will ignore the hypocrisy comment.

You keep suggesting i need to do a study on Love. Isnt it funny how you tell me I need to quit preaching against OSAS, but yet you keep preaching Love to me? Isnt that very hypocrytical?

Not really hypocritical at all. One can find very few scriptures pertaining to preaching against OSAS. However one can find a multitude of scriptures concerning love and how we are to walk in it.

Yes in fact there are times in the NEW TESTAMENT that fear means FEAR! Not awe or reverence, but FEAR!

I never disagreed with this!

Notice im talking about people that arent in Christ.

Now. You didn't even imply it in your first post which I responded to. You had written it as though you were speaking to those in Christ by implication that the reader understood that there are possibly different types of fear and familiar with scriptures pertaining to them. You even asked for opions cocerning the fear of God which an unbeliever would have no understanding about.

How do we show respect? By obedience to him and his word.

So are you saying that all we need to do is just be obedient? To simply go through the motions? Doesn't God want willing obedience? Doesn't He want our hearts also?

One can be obedient without putting any heart into it whatsoever. God wants more than simple respect.

We can respect someone without liking them. We can respect someone without caring for them. We can respect someone without loving them. God had commanded we love Him with all that we are. Love cannot come out of fear, as in dread or danger.

I am sorry that you have a hard time excepting the fact that all we do is to be in love but it is so. We are to love the Lord our God with all that we are. We are to love our neighbors as ourselves. We are to even love our enemies. One cannot walk out the Christian life without love. One cannot fulfill the two commandments given to us by Jesus without love. If one says they love God but mistreat their brother, they are nothing but a liar.

I am also sorry that you feel that I am out to get you in some way for I am not. My point all along has been the issue of love, and how we are to live it, the I Corinthians 13 kinda love. Without it everything we do is for nothing, everything. I agree with most of what you have posted, it is just the attitude that comes across in your posts is what does not line up scriptually.

 

[Godz Marine]

Very True Jim!

So does the Chronicles of Narnia discount Scripture? The following 2 passages written by Paul apparently are speaking of a different Christ and Throneroom than Lewis was. J

Hebrews 4
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.


Hebrews 10
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

 

[joevberry3]

JB,



Asking for opinions so as to observe or learn is one thing. To ask for one's opinion then once it is given you debate it is something else. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone wanting to learn the Bible, it is just that one's motives should be made clear from the beginning. I will ignore the hypocrisy comment.



Not really hypocritical at all. One can find very few scriptures pertaining to preaching against OSAS. However one can find a multitude of scriptures concerning love and how we are to walk in it.



I never disagreed with this!



Now. You didn't even imply it in your first post which I responded to. You had written it as though you were speaking to those in Christ by implication that the reader understood that there are possibly different types of fear and familiar with scriptures pertaining to them. You even asked for opions cocerning the fear of God which an unbeliever would have no understanding about.



So are you saying that all we need to do is just be obedient? To simply go through the motions? Doesn't God want willing obedience? Doesn't He want our hearts also?

One can be obedient without putting any heart into it whatsoever. God wants more than simple respect.

We can respect someone without liking them. We can respect someone without caring for them. We can respect someone without loving them. God had commanded we love Him with all that we are. Love cannot come out of fear, as in dread or danger.

I am sorry that you have a hard time excepting the fact that all we do is to be in love but it is so. We are to love the Lord our God with all that we are. We are to love our neighbors as ourselves. We are to even love our enemies. One cannot walk out the Christian life without love. One cannot fulfill the two commandments given to us by Jesus without love. If one says they love God but mistreat their brother, they are nothing but a liar.

I am also sorry that you feel that I am out to get you in some way for I am not. My point all along has been the issue of love, and how we are to live it, the I Corinthians 13 kinda love. Without it everything we do is for nothing, everything. I agree with most of what you have posted, it is just the attitude that comes across in your posts is what does not line up scriptually.

I think you need to visit my website and see the numerous articles I wrote about LOVE brother Greg.
God Bless,
Joe

 

[Simon Peter]

I FEAR God...

I wouldn't be here today if God - by His Grace - hadn't taught me to FEAR Him.

I was an extremely rebellious young man, I was deeply involved in all sorts of sin; and respected no authority. I could tell many stories, but suffice it to say that I would shout and sware at Police Officers with no provocation; I just didn't care who you were.

But then God got a hold of me...

How do you take a young man like I was and turn a life around?
God taught me to FEAR Him.

But don't think that I don't know my Father's LOVE for me. I truly do, more than you can imagine.

Now I have four sons, and you know, if - like Solomon - I could ask God for one thing for my boys, it would be THE FEAR OF THE LORD. Especially in this day and age.

It has not only saved my life, but it has kept me out of a lot of trouble as grown adult too.

 

[joevberry3]

I FEAR God...

I wouldn't be here today if God - by His Grace - hadn't taught me to FEAR Him.

I was an extremely rebellious young man, I was deeply involved in all sorts of sin; and respected no authority. I could tell many stories, but suffice it to say that I would shout and sware at Police Officers with no provocation; I just didn't care who you were.

But then God got a hold of me...

How do you take a young man like I was and turn a life around?
God taught me to FEAR Him.

But don't think that I don't know my Father's LOVE for me. I truly do, more than you can imagine.

Now I have four sons, and you know, if - like Solomon - I could ask God for one thing for my boys, it would be THE FEAR OF THE LORD. Especially in this day and age.

It has not only saved my life, but it has kept me out of a lot of trouble as grown adult too.

AMen Simon Peter! Very True!

God Bless

 

[Jim B]

So does the Chronicles of Narnia discount Scripture? The following 2 passages written by Paul apparently are speaking of a different Christ and Throneroom than Lewis was. J

Hebrews 4
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.


Hebrews 10
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

Hey, Marine, Put your away your M16!! The Chronicles of Narnia are fiction. I was using it to point out one aspect of the word "fear." I have no intentions of replacing the Scriptures with the Chronicles!!

Your rhetorical question, "So does the Chronicles of Narnia discount Scripture?" is a bit presumtuous. I would have preferred, "So does the Chronicles of Narnia discount my favorite interpretation of Scripture?"

\o/

 

[ChristianRocks]

Great point Simon Peter!

I don't know about you, but my view on fearing the Lord is pretty simple. As the OP pointed out; for me it's reverance-- knowing what God can do and achieve. I'm in awe of the things he can do (stuff you don't even expect), and the things that he doesn't do. Say, wipe us out and start again or something of like that. Indeed, it is by his grace that I gain knowledge of the fear of God. ie. "Woah, I'm saved by grace, and God hasn't chosen to wipe me out because of what I've done? Woah. I'm in awe." It has to do with the understanding of what God is capable of doing, what he doesn't do, and that he is a just God-- that his understanding surpasses that of my own knowledge. Sometimes I find I question God too much and must learn to be in awe of what He can do, aka "fear of the Lord". Hopefully I'm on track?

P.S Thanks for the verses Trish1947!

 

[joevberry3]

Great point Simon Peter!

I don't know about you, but my view on fearing the Lord is pretty simple. As the OP pointed out; for me it's reverance-- knowing what God can do and achieve. I'm in awe of the things he can do (stuff you don't even expect), and the things that he doesn't do. Say, wipe us out and start again or something of like that. Indeed, it is by his grace that I gain knowledge of the fear of God. ie. "Woah, I'm saved by grace, and God hasn't chosen to wipe me out because of what I've done? Woah. I'm in awe." It has to do with the understanding of what God is capable of doing, what he doesn't do, and that he is a just God-- that his understanding surpasses that of my own knowledge. Sometimes I find I question God too much and must learn to be in awe of what He can do, aka "fear of the Lord". Hopefully I'm on track?

P.S Thanks for the verses Trish1947!

Yes Brother--You are on track, keep it up brother.

God Bless