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BNR: Since it is "quite clear", you should be able to tell us exactly what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is. Just place it clearly before us at your earliest convenience.
Do you think Paul (Saul at the time) was among them who Jesus warned about it?I’m not exactly sure to be honest. I’ve told you that before, but what is clear is that this sin will not be forgiven and if at any time this sin is forgiven then this statement in Luke 12:10 is incorrect.
My interpretation of it that apparently it is worse to blaspheme the Holy Spirit than Jesus Himself.
I have no idea what God's motive is for it.
I do believe in universal reconciliation (because of the prophecies), so therefore I conclude that nobody will end up committing the unforgiveable, or that it doesn't mean it separates them who do from the love of God forever.
Paul gives us an example of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.BNR: Since it is "quite clear", you should be able to tell us exactly what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is. Just place it clearly before us at your earliest convenience.
Do you think Paul (Saul at the time) was among them who Jesus warned about it?
Since he says he is the chiefest of all sinners.
Have you seen the long list of translators through the centuries who have translated the Hebrew and Greek scriptures into English. It's quite a list.
Did you know they are all wrong in leading us to believe there is a permanent hell for those who reject Christ, according to the Universalists.
A merciful and loving God cannot be just to send part of His creation to a place such as this while some others enjoy the presence of God forever.
Scripture such as these have been mistranslated by all these translators.
Matt. 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
2Thes. 1:9
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
The Universalists have said they plan to translate their own Bible and make these corrections.
When they do they have sealed their fate. I would like to draw your attention to a very important verse of scripture.
Rev. 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
What have the Universalists taken away from the words of the book of this prophecy, or from the entire Bible? They have taken away from any words such as eternal, everlasting, anything that presents a permanent place of punishment for those who have rejected Christ.
What did God say in Rev. 22:19 the punishment for such a thing will be?
Folks, this is as serious as false doctrine can get!
I’m not exactly sure to be honest. I’ve told you that before, but what is clear is that this sin will not be forgiven and if at any time this sin is forgiven then this statement in Luke 12:10 is incorrect.
BNR: I will tell you exactly what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is lest you continue to not be "exactly sure."
Pay close attention with Charles by your side.
The simple version =
Calling good evil & evil good.
The more complex version=
Blasphemia derived from blapto and pheme.
Charles: I must disclose why we are here on this thread of
yours. You have called good evil.
Folks, this is as serious as false doctrine can get!
BNR: I will tell you exactly what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is lest you continue to not be "exactly sure."
Pay close attention with Charles by your side.
The simple version =
Calling good evil & evil good.
The more complex version=
Blasphemia derived from blapto and pheme.
Yes there is, they go straight to heaven. Its not rocket scienceDear Charles: These "kids" are lost sinners. They have been born in sin without having an opportunity to prove how lost they are. In short, depraved from day 1 (the T of tulip).
There is no free pass
Oh brother, he we go again. I'll just correct your misinformation by simply pointing out to you how your first citation (which BTW way is probably the most cited verse used against Universalism) is misinterpreted. It is claimed that since the latter clause in Matt 25:46 states that life is "eternal," it must be that punishment; i.e. spiritual death must also be "eternal." Such a reading though is a misinterpretation of the text for this passage read in its proper context refers to the sheep-goat judgment pertaining to the Millennial age - not eternity. When Jesus returns to earth at his 2nd coming, he judges those peoples/nations who are still alive at his return. The sheep are judged and allowed to enter in the the Millennial Kingdom for 1,000 years while the goats are also judged and cast into the lake of fire for the same period of time. A millennium though long, is a limited age of time - not forever/everlasting. Therefore the verse should properly read: And these shall go away to punishment age-during [millennium], but the righteous to life age-during [millennium].' (YLT).Have you seen the long list of translators through the centuries who have translated the Hebrew and Greek scriptures into English. It's quite a list.
Did you know they are all wrong in leading us to believe there is a permanent hell for those who reject Christ, according to the Universalists.
A merciful and loving God cannot be just to send part of His creation to a place such as this while some others enjoy the presence of God forever.
Scripture such as these have been mistranslated by all these translators.
Matt. 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
2Thes. 1:9
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
The Universalists have said they plan to translate their own Bible and make these corrections.
When they do they have sealed their fate. I would like to draw your attention to a very important verse of scripture.
Rev. 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
What have the Universalists taken away from the words of the book of this prophecy, or from the entire Bible? They have taken away from any words such as eternal, everlasting, anything that presents a permanent place of punishment for those who have rejected Christ.
What did God say in Rev. 22:19 the punishment for such a thing will be?
Folks, this is as serious as false doctrine can get!
One cannot properly interpret Lk 12:10 without also taking into consideration its parallel passage in Matthew 12:32 where it states: Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.Well that’s certainly one hypothesis, but didn’t the Pharisees just do exactly that? So according to Luke 12:10 will those Pharisees be forgiven?
It comes down to the twisting of nouns and adjectives. Universalism is nothing more that Evolution, a theory.Oh brother, he we go again. I'll just correct your misinformation by simply pointing out to you how your first citation (which BTW way is probably the most cited verse used against Universalism) is misinterpreted. It is claimed that since the latter clause in Matt 25:46 states that life is "eternal," it must be that punishment; i.e. spiritual death must also be "eternal." Such a reading though is a misinterpretation of the text for this passage read in its proper context refers to the sheep-goat judgment pertaining to the Millennial age - not eternity. When Jesus returns to earth at his 2nd coming, he judges those peoples/nations who are still alive at his return. The sheep are judged and allowed to enter in the the Millennial Kingdom for 1,000 years while the goats are also judged and cast into the lake of fire for the same period of time. A millennium though long, is a limited age of time - not forever/everlasting. Therefore the verse should properly read: And these shall go away to punishment age-during [millennium], but the righteous to life age-during [millennium].' (YLT).
Yes there is, they go straight to heaven. Its not rocket science
Well that’s certainly one hypothesis, but didn’t the Pharisees just do exactly that? So according to Luke 12:10 will those Pharisees be forgiven?
BNR: The fact is forgiveness of Father extends to His enemies 70 X 7 minimum.
You also should note that blasphemia derived from blapto and pheme
are age lasting (no forgiveness is this age or the coming age.)
God's forgiveness is bathed in change & transformation
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