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<blockquote data-quote="Morat" data-source="post: 306383" data-attributes="member: 3008"><p>&nbsp; Oh, this is bloody stupid. Alex has decided that there are no atheists in foxholes. </p><p></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; To defend this statement, he invokes a varient of the "No True Scotsman" argument. If you're in a foxhole, you're a theist, even if you claim to be an atheist, think you're an atheist, and don't believe in God. Why? <em>Because no true atheist can be found in a foxhole</em>.</p><p></p><p>&nbsp; He has decided he's right, and no amount of arguing will persuade him. Admittedly, continuing this thread is giving him a real blow to the reputation, but I don't see any real point. </p><p></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; I mean, look at the things he's said. He says "There are no atheists in foxholes". Several people point to former soldiers who were atheists before, during, and after their military service. </p><p></p><p>&nbsp; His answers? "Well, they're wrong." or "They're lying". Or "Yes, they thought and prayed to God, no matter what they say now". Basically "They weren't really atheists, even though they match all the criteria, because there <em>are no atheists in foxholes</em>".</p><p></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; What's the point of arguing with someone who has assumed his conclusion and refuses to admit error? It's a ridiculous statement, and his defenses are correspondingly ridiculous as well. </p><p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p></p><p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Morat, post: 306383, member: 3008"] Oh, this is bloody stupid. Alex has decided that there are no atheists in foxholes. To defend this statement, he invokes a varient of the "No True Scotsman" argument. If you're in a foxhole, you're a theist, even if you claim to be an atheist, think you're an atheist, and don't believe in God. Why? [i]Because no true atheist can be found in a foxhole[/i]. He has decided he's right, and no amount of arguing will persuade him. Admittedly, continuing this thread is giving him a real blow to the reputation, but I don't see any real point. I mean, look at the things he's said. He says "There are no atheists in foxholes". Several people point to former soldiers who were atheists before, during, and after their military service. His answers? "Well, they're wrong." or "They're lying". Or "Yes, they thought and prayed to God, no matter what they say now". Basically "They weren't really atheists, even though they match all the criteria, because there [i]are no atheists in foxholes[/i]". What's the point of arguing with someone who has assumed his conclusion and refuses to admit error? It's a ridiculous statement, and his defenses are correspondingly ridiculous as well. [/QUOTE]
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