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<blockquote data-quote="blader" data-source="post: 300146" data-attributes="member: 3375"><p>Funny. Right after you tell DAVID to read carefully, you totally misread his own statement.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that's about as probable as Christian firemen became Hindu, Muslim... or even... atheist when faced with death. Don't see your point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Would you? I would, but talk is cheap. I could I would, you could say you would, but none of it matters until we really do have to lay our lives on the line. Pointless.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"Although the government does not conduct surveys of religious belief (or nonbelief), it is estimated that about 12 percent of the U.S. population (more than 30 million people) is nonreligious -- atheist, agnostic or secular humanist. If this proportion is carried over to the military, it is probable that at least one in 10 soldiers is without religious belief.</p><p></p><p>Thus the old saying "There are no atheists in foxholes" is entirely without merit or legitimacy. It is an insult to spread such mendacity, yet many make such malicious pronouncements without consideration or apology.</p><p></p><p>I have a friend who is a Vietnam combat veteran and one of the first American soldiers to have "atheist" stamped on his dog tags. My brother fought in some of the pitched battles of the Gulf War; he is also a nonbeliever.</p><p></p><p>Brave men and women fought and died to stop the spread of tyranny in the 20th century. <strong>All soldiers are worth remembering, including those who chose to reject religion.</strong> (Get it?)</p><p></p><p>Religious belief is not a requirement for bravery, courage, decency, honor or patriotism. Many atheists have served and will continue to serve in the U.S. military. So instead of repeating ridiculous old sayings, let's remember all of the soldiers who sacrificed their lives for our freedom."</p><p><a href="http://starbulletin.com/2002/05/25/features/onfaith.html" target="_blank">http://starbulletin.com/2002/05/25/features/onfaith.html</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="blader, post: 300146, member: 3375"] Funny. Right after you tell DAVID to read carefully, you totally misread his own statement. And that's about as probable as Christian firemen became Hindu, Muslim... or even... atheist when faced with death. Don't see your point. Would you? I would, but talk is cheap. I could I would, you could say you would, but none of it matters until we really do have to lay our lives on the line. Pointless. "Although the government does not conduct surveys of religious belief (or nonbelief), it is estimated that about 12 percent of the U.S. population (more than 30 million people) is nonreligious -- atheist, agnostic or secular humanist. If this proportion is carried over to the military, it is probable that at least one in 10 soldiers is without religious belief. Thus the old saying "There are no atheists in foxholes" is entirely without merit or legitimacy. It is an insult to spread such mendacity, yet many make such malicious pronouncements without consideration or apology. I have a friend who is a Vietnam combat veteran and one of the first American soldiers to have "atheist" stamped on his dog tags. My brother fought in some of the pitched battles of the Gulf War; he is also a nonbeliever. Brave men and women fought and died to stop the spread of tyranny in the 20th century. [B]All soldiers are worth remembering, including those who chose to reject religion.[/B] (Get it?) Religious belief is not a requirement for bravery, courage, decency, honor or patriotism. Many atheists have served and will continue to serve in the U.S. military. So instead of repeating ridiculous old sayings, let's remember all of the soldiers who sacrificed their lives for our freedom." [url]http://starbulletin.com/2002/05/25/features/onfaith.html[/url] [/QUOTE]
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