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No it doesn't. We settled that one!YahwehLove said:its almost like you choose to not see it for some reason
It means ''make''
Thats good enough for me.
Here, so we go no further on YOUR definition.versastyle said:No it doesn't. We settled that one!
Isn't God called the creator? I will have to look that one up.
YahwehLove. Can you create and make?
Or can you just make? Because as far as I can tell, God is the only creator, and scripturally there is a difference.
Verse 1 - Created is used.
Verses thereafter - made is used.
Why the change?
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
(Gen 1:1)
There you go.created
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A primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): - choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
(Exo 20:11)
Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Youll have to clarify what it is your asking me.versastyle said:GEEZ!
YL: When was the water (for which God's spirit was upon) created?
Specifically, what verse is this clarified?
The bible isn't clear. According to scripture, the water is never created. Its just there. To think the entire creation occurred in six days only, is to believe the water isn't part of creation.YahwehLove said:Youll have to clarify what it is your asking me.
Id say Gen 1:2 and in 6 he raised the lands.
If youd tell me what youre trying to propose a bit, I could be a little more clearer
Thats good!Im not the enemy here friend.
I dont condemn you if you believe in TE.
If you are born again, then you are my brother
Thats fine if the context of a passage has some specific reason for distinguishing the two.thaiv said:Actually there is a difference between create and make. They are two different Hebrew words and they also have different implications.
I'm sure He can, but the odd part is why if they are so similar in nature, He still chose to use two different words.YahwehLove said:Somehow I get the feeling that and all powerful God can ''create'' or ''make'' and not have to worry much about semantics.
Youre really losing me here.versastyle said:Repost so maybe someone can tell me:
The bible isn't clear on when the water and physical masses were created. According to scripture, the water and masses are never created. Its just there. To think the entire creation occurred in six days only, is to believe the water and mass are not part of creation.
In verse six he did not "create" the masses that would become land. He raised up already existing elements.
All I am saying is that a literal 6 day only creation is not biblical. This position is severly weakened by the presence of water and mass being unaccounted for scripturally.YahwehLove said:He created, then obviously did things like raise the lands masses.
Again, if you wouild make it clear where you are headed with this then Im sure an answer could be given.
Water is mentioned in verse 2, I guess that means it were created in verse 1?
Dear versastyle:versastyle said:Repost so maybe someone can tell me:
The bible isn't clear on when the water and physical masses were created. According to scripture, the water and masses are never created. Its just there. To think the entire creation occurred in six days only, is to believe the water and mass are not part of creation.
In verse six he did not "create" the masses that would become land. He raised up already existing elements.
yikes.versastyle said:All I am saying is that a literal 6 day only creation is not biblical. This position is severly weakened by the presence of water and mass being unaccounted for scripturally.
You cannot say the water and mass were created on day 1, since the scripture does not say it.
I don't know how to reconcile it without adding to the text.
This is all very interesting tho.versastyle said:I guess we can throw out the "verse 1 is a conclusion of the events to come" theory.
I agree.YahwehLove said:This is all very interesting tho.
Ive been toying with the possibilities here to reconcile some of what science is seeing without changing the scripture to do it and so far its quite astounding.
I see.versastyle said:I agree.
But I don't take many hard stances on anything written describing events the author did not witness themselves.
I think God guided the authors of the bible, however, I do not think He was the causation of action of the writer word for word, and human error and misunderstanding are still very prevalant in these types of passages.
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