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It is mentioned everywhere else, and a firmament cannot surrounded a sphere:
- A city cannot be hid on a hill
- Satan took Jesus to the highest mountain
- Everyone will see Jesus returning
- Four Corners ( mentioned countless times )
- Four pillars
- Earth is like a footstool ( flat with pillars )
- Heaven stretched out over the earth
- Heaven and hell above and below respectively
Here are many more quotes:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/flat_earth
Genesis tells me that the flat earth, with your mountains, is under a dome with water above and under the earth. Consider what a dome is and you too might conclude that the earth is really flat, if you cannot use your common sense.
I will happily explain that to you.
First you need to understand that the continents are not exactly where a rectangular/global map shows them to be, and flight routes will confirm this.
The shape of the earth, and position of Continents, is a flat disc ( with surface elevation differences ), surrounded by a firmament in which the outer edges are in the outer parts of Antarctica, and the edge of the firmament surrounds the Earth as a circle.
In the center of the circle is the north pole, then some oceans, than the major continents, then more oceans, the Antarctica, then if you go far enough into Antarctica you reach the firmament, which surrounds Antarctica 360 degrees in a circle.
You will not fall off, because you are surrounded in an impenetrable firmament, if you flew a plane into the firmament, the plane will be destroyed. There is nothing on earth than can break through the firmament, because it is made by God.[/QUOTE
If you all want to get literal--then do so---this is what the actual Hebrew says---
Genesis 1:6
and Elohiym said, a sheet will exist in the midst of the waters, and he existed, making a separation between waters to waters,
Genesis 1:7
and Elohiym made the sheet, and he made a separation between the waters which are below for a sheet and the waters which are above for a sheet, and he existed so,
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/translation1.html
A sheet is a flat rectangle---go take a close look at one. So you need to change your concepts to a flat rectangle.
What is that word 'sheet' in the original Hebrew and which translation did you use?
Go to post #43--click the "click to expand" button it's all there. But I will copy it to here:
"If you all want to get literal--then do so---this is what the actual Hebrew says---
Genesis 1:6
and Elohiym said, a sheet will exist in the midst of the waters, and he existed, making a separation between waters to waters,
Genesis 1:7
and Elohiym made the sheet, and he made a separation between the waters which are below for a sheet and the waters which are above for a sheet, and he existed so,
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/translation1.html
A sheet is a flat rectangle---go take a close look at one. So you need to change your concepts to a flat rectangle."
This clearly isn't so as common sense should prevail. Is it common sense that the earth was created in 6 days?
Well, you know--YOUR RIGHT!! Makes no sense---He could have done it in less---
Psa_33:9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
Jer_32:27 Behold, I am Jehovah, the God of all flesh: is there anything too hard for me?
Pro_3:5 Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:
(Rev 10:6 KJV) And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
Maybe you should look up the word "sound"-new research is quite fascinating---the power of sound. We have no idea what the voice of God can do--the bible says He spoke a world into existence---His voice raises the dead, His voice, calms a raging sea--makes no "common sense" that the bible says God created light before He created the sun---look up the word "light"--there are many aspects to it--including what is called "invisible light" --- invisible to us---not to God. They are just learning about the many aspects of light now.
From a scientific publication about new sound technology--
That sound-powered equipment can accomplish these tasks seems almost magical—and rightly so: Arthur C. Clarke once remarked that "any sufficiently developed technology is indistinguishable from magic." Below we attempt to reveal the legerdemain and explain the simple physics that makes thermoacoustic machines possible.
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/the-power-of-sound/1
Common sense should prevail---and common sense says he earth is round---have you seen the other planets? Every other planet is round. Every other planet but ours is round???? Is that common sense?? You want to apply what the bible says literally---but you refuse to accept what the literal says in the original Hebrew---is that common sense?? You only want to apply modern meaning to an ancient language whos manner of writing can deal more with "impressions" then the literal? Do you understand the Hebrew language at all? You realize that a word can mean more than one thing depending on the context? Even the word "god" as used in Psalms 82 can be not Just God, but judges, people of authority.
Human "common sense" based on our meager knowledge and the power of God don't have much in common.
I understand the point of view of adhering to a flat earth, the sun around the earth and 7 day creationism. Nothing has changed! God can make the sun move around the earth! Never mind that common sense doesn't prevail.
BTW How do you think your witness to an astrophysicist would go?
Just as easily as He can make a round earth that goes around the sun in 7 days---Never mind that your common sense doesn't prevail!
I understand the point of view of adhering to a flat earth, the sun around the earth and 7 day creationism. Nothing has changed! God can make the sun move around the earth! Never mind that common sense doesn't prevail.
BTW How do you think your witness to an astrophysicist would go?
What you wrote isn't observable! Neither is 7 day creationism, but the SDA are stuck with a particular brand of unbelief.
Where does the BIble state anything about the world being flat? Even if the world was round, it would still be the heaven above.If you're a fundamentalist and truly belief the bible as the literal word of God, which I do, you should acknowledge that the world is flat.
I'm not going to argue it, but there is a large amount of evidence on google or youtube, and its just common sense.
How can you say you take the bible literally and believe we're some random planet spinning around the sun, in the galaxy, in the universe. Its a lie. We are stationary and not moving. A flat circle, surrounded in a firmament, as described in Genesis, with heaven above, and hell below.
So what is the problem? I'm not seeing your point?It is mentioned everywhere else, and a firmament cannot surrounded a sphere:
- A city cannot be hid on a hill
- Satan took Jesus to the highest mountain
- Everyone will see Jesus returning
- Four Corners ( mentioned countless times )
- Four pillars
- Earth is like a footstool ( flat with pillars )
- Heaven stretched out over the earth
- Heaven and hell above and below respectively
Here are many more quotes:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/flat_earth
If you're a fundamentalist and truly belief the bible as the literal word of God, which I do, you should acknowledge that the world is flat.
I'm not going to argue it, but there is a large amount of evidence on google or youtube, and its just common sense.
How can you say you take the bible literally and believe we're some random planet spinning around the sun, in the galaxy, in the universe. Its a lie. We are stationary and not moving. A flat circle, surrounded in a firmament, as described in Genesis, with heaven above, and hell below.
It is mentioned everywhere else, and a firmament cannot surrounded a sphere:
- A city cannot be hid on a hill
- Satan took Jesus to the highest mountain
- Everyone will see Jesus returning
- Four Corners ( mentioned countless times )
- Four pillars
- Earth is like a footstool ( flat with pillars )
- Heaven stretched out over the earth
- Heaven and hell above and below respectively
Here are many more quotes:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/flat_earth
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