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The Dutch having issues, for real!

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AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.

The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!"

The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.

"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium.

"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.

The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan.

An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal.

"They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the AD daily.

Right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said he had asked the government to investigate whether a party with such "sick ideas" could really be established, ANP news agency reported.

Kees van deer Staaij, a member of the Christian SGP party, also demanded action: "Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones."

The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening.

Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.

The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.
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AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.

The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!"

The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.

"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium.

"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.

The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan.

An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal.

"They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the AD daily.

Right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said he had asked the government to investigate whether a party with such "sick ideas" could really be established, ANP news agency reported.

Kees van deer Staaij, a member of the Christian SGP party, also demanded action: "Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones."

The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening.

Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.

The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.



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Tenatively, I want to add this is the first steps we saw in the 60's and 70's for moving the gay agenda ahead.
Because of its acceptance level, it no longer tolerated to discuss the Bible scriptures regarding how the ACT is wrong.

:crossrc: I knew this wouldnt be long before it followed.... Sick sick sick world.:doh:




 

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You know what?

I'm Dutch. And THAT makes me sick.

It's a bunch of people that have REALLY lost their way that are trying to get people to believe that they are right.

Well I find it DISGUSTING. If it were up to me they'd be arrested.

/me wants to puke.

I pray for them.

May God bring them back to him.

May He show them the truth.
 
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I have seen alot of 'relative' issues the Dutch stand for, or fight for. It's very scary. Disgusting too. :sick:

I hope Y_Cathol this disease doesnt spread where you are living. Not sure really how you are set up in government or provinces.
SO far the right wings are fighting this.

I hope your voice can be heard....perhaps look for a petition of sorts.

Brimstone and coffee. Would you like some sugar with that? :eek:
 
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WarriorAngel said:
Brimstone and coffee. Would you like some sugar with that? :eek:

As long as I can also have my favorite snack cakes!
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WarriorAngel said:
I have seen alot of 'relative' issues the Dutch stand for, or fight for. It's very scary. Disgusting too. :sick:

I hope Y_Cathol this disease doesnt spread where you are living. Not sure really how you are set up in government or provinces.
SO far the right wings are fighting this.

I hope your voice can be heard....perhaps look for a petition of sorts.

Brimstone and coffee. Would you like some sugar with that? :eek:

yeah... unfortunately...

Nah... I live in South Africa (though I am a citezan of Holland) so I wouldn't know where to look... (but perhaps it's time I started emailing some people.......)
 
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It's amazing how people can justify ANYTHING as long as it is "for the good of the children". It's also amazing how people can think that abolishing restrictions on issues actually means you can do no wrong. The world will be an interesting place when murder is made legal.
Can't wait for the gladiotorial games to start again.
 
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WarriorAngel said:
Reuters- Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 . . .

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg , when she worked for the ACLU, also advocated lowering the age of consent to 12.

Justice Ginsberg and an associate at the ACLU went on to say:

“Replacing ‘Mother’s Day’ and ‘Father’s Day’ with a ‘Parents’ Day’ should be considered, as an observance more consistent with a policy of minimizing traditional sex-based differences in parental roles .

“Prostitution, as a consensual act between adults, is arguably within the zone of privacy protected by recent constitutional decisions.

More statements by Justice Ginsberg at National Review here:

http://www.nationalreview.com/benchmemos/065541.asp
 
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I have friends in Holland and they told me about some of the things legal there. Prostitutes pay taxes like everyone else, have their own union, and if one wants breast implants, the government pays for it - anything to improve the economy is paid for by the government, so if a prostitute says that implants would "improve her company" (the way the government sees it - you're the boss of your company, your body is your company, and the product you're selling is sex), they pay for it. Apparently "high-class" prostitutes can make thousands a week, and buying/selling sexual services is seen as a business deal. Street prostitution is still illegal, but brothels, call girls, and "window girls" (they rent a small apartment with big windows and stand in the window wearing lingerie, waiting for men to come up and make a "deal") are allowed. My Dutch friends support legal prostitution, yet still say "but I wouldn't want my daughter to become a prostitute".

I have a friend who has visited Holland, and she told me that at news stands and magazine racks, the porn is out front and the newspapers are in the back because more people buy porn than newspapers. So people who want to buy a regular newspaper have to dig through the porno mags to find it. She also told me that abortion in Holland is paid for by the government (though in Canada it is too, unfortunately).

As for child porn and pedophilia being legal, I'm honestly not surprised (though I am extremely disgusted) that people are pushing for that, considering that Holland is one of the most "sexually liberated" countries in the world. And people think I'm being unreasonable and bigotted when I say that legalizing gay "marriage" will eventually lead to stuff like this... :(
 
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