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As i said. The reality is, no Christian perfectly follows after the holy spirit every minute of their life
If we( WE/ Christians) claim to be without sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in useDo you have a scripture for that?
If we( WE/ Christians) claim to be without sin we deceive ourselves and the truth us not in use
I john1:8
Anyone who claims to be without sin/says they live a sinless life us deceived
Anyone can distort the plain words, it happens all the time.I'm sure you've read my response to 1 John 1:8 a number of times.
James tells us to confess our sins one to another.I'm sure you've read my response to 1 John 1:8 a number of times.
James tells us to confess our sins one to another.
Who did James write to, Christians or atheists?
Anyone can distort the plain words, it happens all the time.
I don't think so.He was writing to Christians who do not have faith enough to believe for healing. Their unbelief was the sin to be confessed.
I don't think so.
If you want to claim sinlessness, you have to perfectly obey the active law/ Commandments, all of them.
You cannot even obey them all 99 percent of the time. You have to perfectly obey them.
A man mightily filled with the Holy Spirit wrote:
The letter( of the law) kills
AbsolutelyRight, and some even take verses out of context.
We've had this conversation before.Right, but the Spirit gives life. I walk after the Spirit.
We've had this conversation before.
Are you really saying you perfectly, without one slip love all those you come into contact with, including those who hate, malign, persecute and lie about you?
I don't think you do. Not perfectly without one slip.
Now you know that is the command, so you cannot sin in ignorance of it can you
At least you didn't fib!Be angry and sin not.
Gotta run for now
It is worth remembering, that more than once Jason has stated if he believed no law of righteousness existed he would feel free to sin as much as he wanted.
As the law God desires you to keep is in the Christians heart, one wonders how he could make such a statement. For what is in your heart you in your heart want to follow.
Also, if he only wants to obey God out of fear of hell if he doesn't, where is the love for God in that? No one seeks to wilfully offend the one they love.
HiHi Stuart, so great to meet you. Here is another way of looking at it from God's Word.......
"Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin." (Romans 3:20)
"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." (1 John 3:4)
If there is no Law, there is NO knowledge of sin, If there is no knowledge of sin then how do we know we are sinners? If we have no knowledge of sin then we have no need of a Savior. If we have no Savior then we have no salvation. If we have no salvation then we are lost.
"For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law." (Romans 2:12)
Hope this is helpful.
God bless you
Hi
Law exists, and through it we become conscious of sin. But it is not a law of righteousness for the believer.
Notice the theme here Jason, it's about hate. As a Christian we love our Neighbor as ourselves. God desires mercy, the same mercy He has shown unto us.Verse 3 says that we WERE (past tense) disobedient and foolish serving lusts and pleasures.
Have to say, you really read into that.Verse 4 talks about initial salvation because it is saying how the love of the savior appeared towards man. This is Jesus's appearance 2,000 years ago. When Jesus appeared His sacrifice and resurrection is able to make man into a right relationship with God by redeeming Him of his past sin through Jesus.
You have added the word initial. The Scripture is plain, it is not by our works or our righteousness that we are saved. It is by God's mercy that we are saved. It is God that washes us clean, we are renewed by the giving of the Holy Spirit. We are born again, under grace. We are no longer under the Law, we are under the Grace Of God. You are right, it is a one time event, a Christian now lives by the Spirit of God. Under the Grace of God.Verse 5 is saying that this intial salvation is not by works of righteousness by which we have done because it was according to His mercy He saved us (a one time past event by accepting Christ) and by the washing and regeneration of the Holy Ghost. The washing and regeneration of the Holy Ghost is a one time event here.
Go back to verse 5, what is shed on us through Jesus Christ our Saviour? God's Mercy! We are renewed by the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit sanctifies us.Verse 6 says that God shed the Holy Spirit upon us abundantly through Jesus christ our Savior. So if the Spirit is shed upon us abundantly, then the fruits of the Spirit and not the fruits of the devil will be evident in our lives.
We are justified by God's Grace, not our works, not our righteousness just as verse 5 says. It is God's mercy upon us when we put our trust in Christ. Christ is our hope. The only hope we have.Verse 7 says that we are justified by His grace we SHOULD (which is a possibility) be heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Jesus tells us what the good work is:Verse 8 says that they that believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. Why do they have to be careful in maintaining good works?
James says faith without works is dead (James 2:17).
Many Christians make the mistake of thinking they must look to the letter of commandnents/ law in order to please/ obey God. That is not to understand the message:Hi Stuart,
Not many people realize that everything in the New Testament comes from the Old Testament in God's Word.
"All of our righteousness is as filthy rags" (Isaiah 64:6) and we are all sinners in need of a Saviour (Romans 3:23) but the Law of God (the 10 commandments) is our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ that we might be justified by faith (Galatians 3:24) But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster (Galatians 3:25).
Why? Because the Law of God which is the great standard of righteousness shows as that we are all sinners and the wages of sin is death. It also points us to Jesus as God's great gift and the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world (Romans 6:23; John 1:29) It is here kneeling in Faith in the promises of God's Words at the foot of the Cross that we are forgiven and cleansed from our sins as we believe Gods Word (1 John 1:9). This is the beginning of the new covenant promise....
"For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more." (Hebrews 8:10-12; Jeremiah 31:33-34)
To be under the Law means to be under it's condemnation and be found guilty of breaking the Law because of sin. The new covenant is the Work of God the circumcision of the Heart (Roman 2:28-29)
That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 5:21).
God's people now follow Jesus because they have been Born of God through the operation of God. They now keep God's Law because they love God. This is why it is written...
"O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day" (Psalms 119:97)
"I hate vain thoughts: but thy law do I love." (Psalms 119:113)
"I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love." (Psalms 119:163
"Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing30 shall offend them." (Psa 119:16)
What is righteousness?
"My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness." (Psalms 119:172) Unrighteousness is sin.
Being Born again?
"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3)
"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." (1 John 3:9)
"We know that whosoever is born of God sins not; but he that is begotten of God keeps himself, and that wicked one touches him not." (1 John 5:18)
This is why Jesus says.....If ye love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15)
"He that saith, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." (1 John 2:4)
The new covenant changes the heart so that we follow Jesus now because we love Him. His laws are to be written in our hearts as we have complete dependence and faith in the Word of God to do what it says it will do. Now we keep God's commandments because we love God and our neighbor.... on these two commandments hang all the Law and the prophets (Matthew 22:40).
If we are knowingly sinning then this is the transgression of God's Law and the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23).
"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." (1 John 2:1)
Hope this is helpful.
God bless you all
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