The differences of beliefs

[icedtea]

Hi. Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but I can't search all the pages.
I was brought up Catholic and apparently wasn't paying fmuch attention as I don't recall any of the things Catholics believe.
I am guessing it is
She was without original sin from a miracle from God, not her parents.
She was a virgin always.
She was lifted to Heaven without dying.

In protestantism, we never discuss her, and I am sure we don't believe these things.
My question is why?
Why do protestants not believe these Catholic doctrines?

 

[Rhamiel]

some Catholics say she died, some say she did not

 

[Tyndale]

Why do protestants not believe these Catholic doctrines?

If it's not in the bible we don't believe it

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

If it's not in the bible we don't believe it

amen. If the Word is silent...it is for a reason. It is ok to have the ECF and their teachings I guess if that is what you want...but I don't take that as 'gospel'. They are infalliable men...prone to mistakes...and their own biases. SO...not in the Word, I don't believe it

 

[Iollain]

Hi. Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but I can't search all the pages.
I was brought up Catholic and apparently wasn't paying fmuch attention as I don't recall any of the things Catholics believe.
I am guessing it is
She was without original sin from a miracle from God, not her parents.
She was a virgin always.
She was lifted to Heaven without dying.

In protestantism, we never discuss her, and I am sure we don't believe these things.
My question is why?
Why do protestants not believe these Catholic doctrines?

Because she was human, and human is just plain human, you cannot be without original sin, because humans are all from Adam, and all from Adam are just plain human and are just plainly going to die just because of Adam's sin. Also God is not into cheating, all under Adam are human, so how did He make Mary without being human?

It really does not matter a bit if she stayed a virgin after Jesus was born, the Bible seems to suggest other children, and says other children in Psalms, but whatever, it does not matter.

And from what i've read, yes she did die. Did God take her body? May be if the story is true that the Apostles stood by and guarded her grave against certain people who would attack and disrespect her body. But then it just sounds too much like Jesus, some of the stories. I read one version that must be recent that she went up like Jesus bodily and she said she 'would be with them in their days and their nights', and how is that? Jesus is with us through the Spirit, so there must be a Mary Spirit???

 

[AngCath]

Hi. Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but I can't search all the pages.
I was brought up Catholic and apparently wasn't paying fmuch attention as I don't recall any of the things Catholics believe.
I am guessing it is
She was without original sin from a miracle from God, not her parents.
She was a virgin always.
She was lifted to Heaven without dying.

In protestantism, we never discuss her, and I am sure we don't believe these things.
My question is why?
Why do protestants not believe these Catholic doctrines?

because Protestants mistakingly reject Holy Tradition

 

[IamAdopted]

because Protestants mistakingly reject Holy Tradition

Where is it written anywhere that tradition is Holy or sacred or inspired? For tradition is what it is.. This is tradtion that men hold on to instead of the written word of God.. Spoken against by our Savior.. For it is in the written word of God that all truth is revealed..

 

[AngCath]

St. Paul refers to traditions passed down that he doesn't explicate for his readers.

 

[Latreia]

Where is it written anywhere that tradition is Holy or sacred or inspired? For tradition is what it is.. This is tradtion that men hold on to instead of the written word of God.. Spoken against by our Savior.. For it is in the written word of God that all truth is revealed..

With true faith in God, maybe we should all relax and allow our fellow Christians to approach their souls' release however they are called.

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

WE talked about traditions and the 'old' in church today. I am sorry, but traditions are NOT equal to, the same as or anything else to the Bible. If people want to hold to tradition...that is ok. I mean, go for it if that is what does it for you. BUT for me, I want fresh manna and new stuff from God. He reminded me of so much in church today. But really, what does tradition do? Hold God in a box. The early church fathers are men. NOT perfect, and I am sure they would progress with things of the day. Pastor said something interesting in church today, these ECF were yesterdays heritics and todays heros. I mean come on. Should we elevate what they said? No. They are prone to mistakes and error....

 

[icedtea]

They are prone to mistakes and error....

All humans are! That is why we have The Word.

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

All humans are! That is why we have The Word.

exactly. The Word is always fresh and relevant to today.

 

[Latreia]

WE talked about traditions and the 'old' in church today. I am sorry, but traditions are NOT equal to, the same as or anything else to the Bible. If people want to hold to tradition...that is ok. I mean, go for it if that is what does it for you. BUT for me, I want fresh manna and new stuff from God. He reminded me of so much in church today. But really, what does tradition do? Hold God in a box. The early church fathers are men. NOT perfect, and I am sure they would progress with things of the day. Pastor said something interesting in church today, these ECF were yesterdays heritics and todays heros. I mean come on. Should we elevate what they said? No. They are prone to mistakes and error....

As you and I....

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

As you and I....

yes. for sure. no disagreement there.

 

[Rhamiel]

"All humans are! That is why we have The Word."
I find it interesting how some people think God can pretect wrtters but not the Magistrum of His Church

 

[icedtea]

Because He wanted to!

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

"All humans are! That is why we have The Word."
I find it interesting how some people think God can pretect wrtters but not the Magistrum of His Church

well, I don't even know what that is...another human tradition thing? Look, He protects HIS word. He said nothing about protecting mans doctrine and stuff. Sorry.

 

[IamAdopted]

"All humans are! That is why we have The Word."
I find it interesting how some people think God can pretect wrtters but not the Magistrum of His Church

well now what is the Magistrum of His church? His Apostles were.. They were the ones filled with the Power from on high.. They were the ones that penned the NT.. God gave them the power and authority to do this. Christ is the head of His church. How much more protection can we get when Christ being Whom He is is the head of HIS church.. He never left anyone here as head of His Church.. He Himself is the head.

 

[Latreia]

well now what is the Magistrum of His church? His Apostles were.. They were the ones filled with the Power from on high.. They were the ones that penned the NT.. God gave them the power and authority to do this. Christ is the head of His church. How much more protection can we get when Christ being Whom He is is the head of HIS church.. He never left anyone here as head of His Church.. He Himself is the head.

All of this, and much, much more.

Perhaps more than any human shall ever know or envision and have within sight or hearing.

I know I can live with that.

 

[CaDan]

This will go nowhere without defining terms:

"Word" or "Word of God"
"Tradition"